[RootbeaR]

"The folks over at TorrentFreak alerted me to the news that singer Lily Allen, who made some news last week for speaking out against file sharing and against artists who have defended file sharing, has put up a blog, called "It's Not Alright," to talk about this particular subject. In one of her very first posts, she reposted an entire Techdirt post about 50 Cents' view on piracy and how it's part of the marketing. Allen goes on to then say that this is not alright and that 50 Cent is being selfish and isn't thinking about everyone else. But what's quite odd is that Ms. Allen, while complaining about such unfair copying, seemed to have absolutely no problem with copying my entire Techdirt post -- without credit or a link. As I said when asked by TorrentFreak for my response:"
http://techdirt.com/articles/20090921/0527456270.shtml

[Stoner]

I can see the point....I too wish there wasn't so much copying and pasting of techdirt at TSG...................

[RootbeaR]

Originally Posted by Stoner

I can see the point....I too wish there wasn't so much copying and pasting of techdirt at TSG...................

You obviously missed the point. Or didn't read, again.

Techdirt has no problem with copying entire articles.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by RootbeaR

You obviously missed the point. Or didn't read, again.

Techdirt has no problem with copying entire articles.

I have no interest in reading it again

It was a joke, RootbeaR


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lighten up bud

[sommop]

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[RootbeaR]

"It seems that a few folks misunderstood the point of my post yesterday in joking about Lily Allen's double standard in ranting against unfair copying while copying blog posts from other sites. And Lily herself appears to be among those people. She's posted an apology, though, a bit petulantly, starting in all capital letters:

I THINK ITS QUITE OVIOUS THAT I WASNT TRYING TO PASS OF THOSE WORDS AS MY OWN , HERE IS A LINK TO THE WEBSIITE I ACQUIRED THE PIECE FROM . Apologies to Michael Masnick"
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...10156273.shtml

I could give her a link on where to acquire movies and music.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by RootbeaR

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I could give her a link on where to acquire movies and music.

I think we're all aware of that

[Stoner]

In all seriousness.....why is this article important?
Allen is obviously a hypocrite......but is there some angle to the article other than outing her?
I don't like to see plagiarism and see nothing wrong in calling her out on it.....it's a lack of intellectual honesty.
I've seen people in CD accidentally not post links or give credit due......but in Allen's case, I didn't see a quick response to correct the impression she manufactured.

Do you think her hypocrisy in some way invalidates the argument that illegal file swapping is a crime that needs to be addressed?

[RootbeaR]

Start a thread in CD, I am just posting a follow up to original article.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by RootbeaR

Start a thread in CD, I am just posting a follow up to original article.

No.....you can make the request, but I'm with in my right's to discuss the article...... it goes against the purpose of this forum to restrict my question about the article..
http://forums.techguy.org/5423326-post1.html
excerpt>

Please use this forum to post interesting tech-related news articles that you come across, and to discuss articles that others have shared.

Of course, you don't have to respond.
But then..... some people might wonder why.

[RootbeaR]

Then go ahead and discuss.

If you keep it about the article and not about me, I may even join in.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by RootbeaR

Then go ahead and discuss.

If you keep it about the article and not about me, I may even join in.

OK......beyond the aspect of Allen being a hypocrite, what is the object of the article in relationship to technology?
As you posted the articles, you seem to have seen something or you likely wouldn't have posted them.

Would you like to share that thought?

[Stoner]

I did a little reading up on Lily Allen, and maybe I was a bit harsh.....perhaps it was just haste and frustration that lead to forgetting to post credit to a source that was likely to have been a source of that frustration.

Article here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8267142.stm
about Allen, her blog and the situation that as an artist just had to be irritating.

ecerpt>

Forty billion music files were downloaded without payment in 2008, global music industry body the IFPI said, meaning 95% of all digital music was downloaded illegally.

Well, haven't I seen arguments that those weren't really lost sales, that these thieves actually went out and bought the music if they liked it?
( RootbeaR, didn't you post to that effect? )

But this looks contradictory:

Worldwide album sales have halved in the 10 years since the original mass file-sharing software, Napster, appeared.

!!

The peer-to-peer debate has been rumbling on for a tedious, divisive and largely fruitless decade, with illegal traffic continuing to grow as lawsuits, education campaigns and anti-piracy technologies have come and gone.

No wonder Lily Allen is frustrated.

Ministers will soon decide whether to suspend the internet accounts of serial file-sharers.

These thieves may have to go back to the old fashioned way of stealing......

[RootbeaR]

Originally Posted by Stoner

OK......beyond the aspect of Allen being a hypocrite, what is the object of the article in relationship to technology?

Maybe ask in web & e-mail forum what copying from internet has to do with technology.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by RootbeaR

Maybe ask in web & e-mail forum what copying from internet has to do with technology.

In the scheme of all things, that could be a possibility......but as the articles you posted were about plagiarism and not the issue of illegal downloading that Allen addresses, the connection you try to make is mostly sophistry, imo.

You could, however, mark this thread solved