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02-Jul-2003, 03:26 PM #31
Cool thanks, maybe I'll try again. But please-can you make an ISO of the CD so we can just download it?
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02-Jul-2003, 03:29 PM #32
Wait a second-why would we need an antivirus, instant messenger, winamp, and partition magic to run windows on a CD?
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02-Jul-2003, 03:45 PM #33
Re: tutorial
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Originally posted by semios:
I spent like 120 hours last month making a good Working windows cd. I just finished the tutorial today and I thought it might be helpful to you guys - it mentions some stuff that even that C'T site didn't, but that is extremely necessary.

here's the link:
http://www.lachiesadicristo.it/w98cd/default.htm

Happy Hacking,

Semios
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Welcome to TSG semios!
I've been following your project on another board.
Good to see you got the tutorial posted!
In time, I'll give it a try.
Thank you


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02-Jul-2003, 08:09 PM #34
Cool Antivirus, winamp, and the like
Thanks for the "welcome aboard". Can't say I'll post much, but I'll try to drop in from time to time in case there's any questions around here. So, on to a question or two. . .

It is possible and even easier to make a windows cd without all the tools and such, but then, what would you do with an OS with no programs installed? I pretty much put the most tools I could get to work, with 2 requirements:

1) A CD that can be cut to credit card size, just like KNOPIX [sp.]and Damn Small Linux.
2) Runnable on a 128 MB system.

I also wanted something similar to those Linux distros, but not near as ugly as the 8 pt. Linux fonts on Blackbox. If you don't know what I mean, don't worry about it. I just wanted a windows cd with the necessary tools to fix my friends computers, my computer and mess around a little bit. Page three (or is it two?) of the tutorial explains some more why's.

I could post a link to the ISO of my latest variant on this windows on cd system. But here's why I don't, and won't:

1) It seems that it would violate the EULA agreement. Microsoft doesn't like unallowed distribution of its code, and my main concern is that people like us can have access to the info in the tutorial. I Don't want Microsoft bringing it down because I am in violation of federal and international laws.

2) If you downloaded my ISO, you would have to do the stupid hardware detection scheme at every boot, which is a pain. If You make it yourself, you get a system how YOU like it and suited to YOUR box. If you do it yourself, you get lots more freedom of choice, you can rip all everything you don't need and not depend on the choices of some guy who can't remember his native language.

3) If I give it to you, I'm going to have to give it to everyone else for coherence sake. I would love to do that, but I would never want to distribute something worldwide.

4)Bandwidth. how about a nice hypothetical case here. Let's say Fred Langa, who has been in touch about this project, puts me on the "they loaded the code" part of his newsletter, which goes out to over 100,000 people. There's not too many who wouldn't download a 47 MB iso. 47MB*100,000 is 4.7 Terrabytes. I doubt any of us can actually fathom what that menas. I dont' know about your web hosts, but I know mine could not stand up to that kind of load, even if distributed over several weeks. Now I could put it on my in house server, but a 128KB outgoing DSL wouldn't last long on that. Can you say "Denial of Service"? Neither of these solutions would be good for you guys either, since I'm in Europe and you would all be cursing me cause you couldn't get the ISO.

5) Web Space. I'm hosting this tutorial on the web site of the church where I preach (I also run the web site. go figure). We only have 100 MB of space there and using up half of it wouldn't leave much for things more important than OSes.

6)Which ISO would I post? I've got 4 of them, and they all do different things. We've got a minimal Micro 98 install, that doesn't have any visual basic support and runs opera. THere's an improved version of that one too. Then there's the ISO which accesses the system files and some other things on the cd (little note: don't try it at home! it is S-L-O-W slow!) ANd then there's the newest ISO, which had IE6.0 and runs visual basic stuff really well. I couldn't post all of them, no matter where there would be space.

I do apologize that I can't put up the ISO . . .but you'll be much happier with it and feel a little more accomplished if you do it yourself. Thanks for your interest and post in case you have questions.

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02-Jul-2003, 08:26 PM #35
Yea I know what you mean about bandwidth and hardware detection and everything. I was hoping maybe someone could drop it in their shared folder or something. Maybe I will try creating one again. But last time it was baad when I deleted a system file because the instructions got me messed up.
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03-Jul-2003, 03:50 AM #36
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Maybe I will try creating one again. But last time it was baad when I deleted a system file because the instructions got me messed up.
Trick (?) #1, don't delete directly. First rename files, then delete them later. If you are trying to prune down system files, have a look at my windows.zip file list - but remember this is for a micro install - it means that I did the shell swap, this creates a different dependencies in the system files. So as long as you do a micro install (with win98 lite) you can use my list as a guide and it should help you out considerably.

lates,
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07-Jul-2003, 09:34 PM #37
Having an ISO that's downloadable would be illegal. People could just burn it to there drive and wala! have free Windows.

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07-Jul-2003, 10:17 PM #38
Yea I suppose so, but in theory you could do the ISO, and leave out one system file that would prove the person owns the OS.
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07-Jul-2003, 11:21 PM #39
That's impossible, cuz the registry entry that says who registered it and what the registration code is is so like webbed into the system that removing it would cause windows to fail. Nice try though. Another, problem is where would you put that ISO, most web hosts don;t allow it or don't allocate enough space to have it or there's just not enough bandwidth, either way I don;t think it would work out. Sorry, to burst your bubble.

Sorry,

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08-Jul-2003, 12:30 AM #40
No you can change your Windows key by modifying the registry entry, and well no free web hosts wouldn't allow it, but any decent paid host should allow an ISO file (mine does), and the extra space would cost about $25/year (or it could be offered on IRC or P2P networks or FTP or whatever).
Anyway, no bubbles bursted as Semios already explained why its better to create the CD yourself.
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08-Jul-2003, 12:35 AM #41
OK.

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08-Jul-2003, 02:38 AM #42
not much
The registry key for your license code is in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTARE/Microsoft/Windows/Currentversion/ProductId . its easy to change and have no trouble on windows 98 - on Xp it is more related to WPA, but even there changing the key won't necessarily kick you into registration mode.

laters,
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09-Jul-2003, 10:28 PM #43
OK guys, if you'd like to upload a ROM file, just e-mail me at:hexstar@johnscompany.net, and I'll give you my username and password for a website I have that has unlimited web space.

P.S., scratch that theory that it won't work. Oh and it also has unlimited bandwidth.
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11-Jul-2003, 05:59 AM #44
pls can we put that iso ?
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11-Jul-2003, 08:52 AM #45
iso
I already elaborated the reasons for which I won't post an iso. I mean, I already told you guys how to do everything, and its not really difficult at all. So what are you waiting for? Why don't you just start? you'll finish it on your own decades before I would post an iso.

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