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09-Jul-2003, 12:55 PM #1
Use WinME defrag on W98se
This has probably been posted before but I can't remember where or when. I will therefore post it again anyway:

I just downloaded the DEFRAG.EXE from bootdisk.com and ran it on my W98se. Results: WOW! This thing flies! The W98se defragger is a turtle compared to it.

I highly recommned this. You can get it at Bootdisk.com Once there, click DOS - Windows 9X/Me/NT/2K/XP Excellent Bootdisks then scroll down to the bottom to Updated defrag from WinMe works fine in Win95/98 and is 4 times faster .

As always, either disable your startup list in MSCONFIG or boot into safe mode to run defrag.
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09-Jul-2003, 01:37 PM #2
Out of curiosity, after reading the Post, I Scandisked & Defragged the 40 GB HD with the DeFrag program in my copy of Windows 98SE (Ver. 4.10.2222A; with NO Updates since computer purchase in Sept. 2001), and got the following times.


Scandisk: 41 Seconds

DeFrag: 4 Min. 48 Seconds.

Timed it using the seconds readout on wristwatch, but feel that times are + - 1 Second.

So, theoretically, I should get a DeFrag time of 1 Minute 12 Seconds or so (288 / 4 = 72)?

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09-Jul-2003, 01:45 PM #3
Thanks for that input Gary.

Of course defrag times will vary greatly, depending mostly on the size of the volume being defragged, CPU speed and percentage of fragmentation. My error was not to time the defrag. It only took a couple of minutes by my estimate, but then again I am working with a 1.1ghz CPU and a C: partition of only 10GB. The only true test of efficiency would be to time one defrag, then the new one and even then the comparison will not be accurate because of a difference in percentage of fragmentation to begin with.
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So, theoretically, I should get a DeFrag time of 1 Minute 12 Seconds or so (288 / 4 = 72)?
Oops! just saw your edit now.

Theroretically I suppose you are right!

Here is an interesting point. I also use Norton Speed Disk to defrag.

My Win98se used to take nearly an hour with it's own defragger, but Speed disc gave me sub-one minute defrags on occasion; the longest was about 5 minutes. The same Speed Disk takes 11 minutes to defrag my W2K on the same computer with the same drive volume and both on FAT32. I am assuming this is because W2K is more complex than W98se. Useless information for most people, I know, but it does illustrate the wide range of variables that effect defrag times.
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12-Jul-2003, 07:10 AM #6
Pyritechips:

I have used the Windows ME version of Disk Defragmenter in my own Windows 98SE desktop for quite awhile, and I install it in most of the 98/98SE desktops that I work on. It is definitely faster.

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Windows ME version of Disk Defragmenter in my own Windows 98SE desktop for quite awhile, and I install it in most of the 98/98SE desktops that I work on. It is definitely faster

Faster than 4:48 to defrag a 40 Gb HD that hadn't been defragged for about 2 weeks?
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The ME version defrags my 6.03 GB hard drive in less than 15 minutes, whereas the 98SE version used to take over an hour. I gather that defragging speed has a lot to do with the size of the hard drive and how much data is in it.

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13-Jul-2003, 06:51 AM #9
I dunno, that 15 minutes for only 6.03 Gb seems kinda odd in some way.....

The 4 Minute, 48 second time I got with the 98SE Defrag version to defrag the 40 Gb. drive was with AVG, ZoneAlarm, StiMon, Systray & Explorer running.

I've defragged with them turned off, and my feeling is there isn't that much time difference.... but will, when defrag is ran in next week or 2, try to remember to time it with everything off.

Haven't tried it in DOS, but probably wouldn't be much noticeable difference in times.
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Gary R:

I think your best solution is to try the WinME Defrag yourself and then make a comparision with your Win98SE Defrag. You can't really get a accurate answer by asking other people what results they got on their system as your system may be different than theirs.
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13-Jul-2003, 08:29 PM #11
Hmmm, well, all I did was make a comment that taking *that* long to defrag a smaller drive seemed rather odd....
15 minutes for a 6.03 Gb. drive vs. 4:48 for a drive with 6+ times the capacity I think you'd agree does sound a bit unusual no matter what sort of system was used....
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Howdy

I'm no techy but... 4 minutes 48 seconds seems unbelieveably fast for a 40 gig drive

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All I can say is the Windows ME version makes a big difference, time-wise, than the Windows 98SE version did on my computer. It's a 6-year old HP 8160 with a Quantum Bigfoot 3,600 RPM hard drive, so that may have a bearing on the time.

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4 minutes 48 seconds seems unbelieveably fast for a 40 gig drive

Well, as I remarked earlier, the time was taken with the seconds function on my watch, but I still feel confident the time is within + - 1 second of 4:48.
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Well, as I remarked earlier, the time was taken with the seconds function on my watch, but I still feel confident the time is within + - 1 second of 4:48.
just as silly a remark the second time as it was the first

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