[Deke40]

Joe-I just did a True Dos and a Dos Prompt delete on my RB and after the Dos prompt I had 29KB and then I did a True Dos and there was only 310 bytes left.

From this it looks like you might not get the complete benefits of the delete from just the dos prompt but the differences are negligible.

I will wait and do another test when I have a larger amount showing on the right click of the properties of the RB and post it.

[GoJoAGoGo]

Deke, OK thanks for checking into this.

[hewee]

Hey I tried something and it worked.
You know how IE will not let you delete the index.dat files.
Get the new Hijackthis and it will let you delete files on reboot.

[aarhus2004]

Hello hewee,

I liked the sound of the HijackThis being able to do the deletion you mentioned, i.e. index.dat - so I had a whirl.

I went into 'Misc.Tools' and clicked on 'Delete a file on reboot". I then brought up the Temporary Internet folder. Nothing showed with 'All files' chosen.

Can you tell me what the next step is, please?

Thanks, hewee.

[xoxoxoxoxoxo]

No one has answered my question yet - How do you get to MS-Dos Prompt in Windows??? Do you go to Start -> Run and type in something or what? Please help!

[buck52]

welcome xoxo....etc...

what version of windows are you using...

it would be best if you started your own thread stating your problem in the appropriate forum rather than tag on to this thread...

buck

[aarhus2004]

Hi xox...,

In Windows 9x (98,Me) a bootup (startup) floppy is required. You will need one floppy disk. Go to Start|Settings|Control Panel|Add/Remove programs and see the tab "Startup Disk. Click on it and follow the prompts.

Insert the created EBD (Emergency Boot Disk aka bootup, startup floppy) into its drive and restart your computer.

You will see a screen offering you a choice of 'With' or 'Without' CDROM Support etc. Choose 'Minimal' by using the down key on your keyboard and clicking Enter.

The A prompt will follow. It looks like this:

A:\>

The option you mentioned (Start|Run) is not true DOS but has many functions nevertheless.

HTH.

[hewee]

Originally Posted by aarhus2004

Hello hewee,

I liked the sound of the HijackThis being able to do the deletion you mentioned, i.e. index.dat - so I had a whirl.

I went into 'Misc.Tools' and clicked on 'Delete a file on reboot". I then brought up the Temporary Internet folder. Nothing showed with 'All files' chosen.

Can you tell me what the next step is, please?

Thanks, hewee.

I can see the index.dat with hijackthis in the...
C:\WINDOWS\Cookies
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5
But I can't in the...
C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

The C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files index.dat is the that gets used too.


No in the pass I have just deleted the the folder the index.dat file is in and it works. But it then made a new one and a new history folder in the C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder. I then delete that anf it seems to replace it back to where it should be.
But I don't use IE or have cookies etc that I need to have.

I also have GiPo@MoveOnBoot that will work. You just go to the file and right click on it. Then click on the properties tab. Then your see the GiPo@ tab. Click on that tab and then on the GiPo@MoveOnBoot in the window. Click the Execute button and another box comes up and you can pick deleted or move or copy. ok your way out and reboot.

Works great and they have a free version at the botton of this page.
GiPo@MoveOnBoot 1.9.5 (English), EXE-setup (644 Kb)

http://www.gibinsoft.net/gipoutils/fileutil/index.htm

[hewee]

With 98 you can get to the MS-DOS Prompt by going to C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs and clicking on the MS-DOS Prompt.

There a Dosprmpt shortcut in the C:\WINDOWS\ folder.
But without a shortcut I don't know where the file is.

[aarhus2004]

Hello hewee,

Thank-you for posting back.

I don't know about the folder:

C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files index.dat but I see from another post you have made in this thread that you are using Win98. Perhaps that is why I haven't come across it.

HijackThis doesn't restart my comp so I did. However I see no change in the index.dat file size. So I am lost. But you use other than I.E. - perhaps that is part of the difficulty I am having.

Thanks for the link to Gibin's 'Move on Boot'.

[hewee]

Ben,

Your welcome, I think so of the reason is not so much 98 but the upgrade to IE 6 from 5.5 because it moved where IE was keeping the IE temp and cookies. I have Zone Alarm Pro and it is made to clear the index.dat files but it does not clear all 3 of them either.
Next time I redo 98SE I will install the full version of IE 6 from the very start and maybe that will stop how thing are now. Not you have to do the restarting of the PC on your own.

But the 'Move on Boot' will work. It will see all the files for you because your looking at the file to start with and then right click on it. I use the find and do a search on the index.dat and then do my deleting with 'Move on Boot'.

[aarhus2004]

hewee,

I want to say how much I appreciate your willingness to help and clarify.

I resisted I.E.6 for many months and it is only recently I was obliged to accept it. I did my first format and install and could not fully update I.E5 - this was the beginning of my use of it.

So I have learned from you that I.E.6 has taken a different approach to storing the largely inaccessible data - something I did not know. I look forward to installing and using "Move on Boot". To find out what is where.

Exploring TechGuyForum is a gradual process for this newcomer. There is so much here. But I have come across your posts in many places. You always encourage and help where you can. And I am sure you enjoy the time you spend in TGF.

My thanks for your sharing, hewee.

With best wishes.

*************

This in Windows Millenium using I.E.6.

Using the MoveonBoot utility to reduce the size of the index.dat file in Temporary Internet Files which mabe viewed by using the Disk Cleanup utility in System Tools.

On accessing those files which Disk Cleanup would remove I clicked on 'View Files'. The index.dat file was revealed. I right clicked on it and on the drop drop menu item 'Delete file(s) on the next reboot'. I rebooted and on accessing this index.dat file found it was reduced in size to the minimum 32kb. This is, for me, a confirmation of this freeware utility's efficacy. It is available for download here:

http://www.gibinsoft.net/gipoutils/fileutil/index.htm

or directly from here:

http://www.gibinsoft.net/gipoutils/bin/moveonb.exe

I believe further exploration will reveal much more usefulness.

Thanks to hewee for this information.

[hewee]

aarhus2004,

Glad your learning because there is so much we can learn all the time.

I never wanted to upgrade to IE 6 but at the time I was on dial-up. My sister got cable so I took my PC over there to get all the MS updates for 98. I had not gotten any of them so it was alot and took some time even with cable. I did not want the IE 6 but my sister clicked on it and it started the download so I got it. But from things I read I guess it is better to have.
But when I ever redo the PC I will have to upgrade the 98SE to 5.0 or above I think just to use the MS update. I downloaded the full install of IE 6 so I will see if I can install 98 without the IE 4 or delete IE 4 before installing IE 6. That way I will not have the added folders. Then maybe Zone Alarm can clean it up like it is made to do. It looks and cleans up the index.dat that in the foders IE 5.5 had but not IE 6. Screwy but that is how it works. Same with norton clean sweep that lets you clean up files. I could never use it to clean up the netscape cookie. Well I found out it was because I had moved the user folder to another place and it was not in it's default spot.

[aarhus2004]

Originally Posted by hewee

aarhus2004,

But when I ever redo the PC I will have to upgrade the 98SE to 5.0 or above I think just to use the MS update. I downloaded the full install of IE 6 so I will see if I can install 98 without the IE 4 or delete IE 4 before installing IE 6.

Hello hewee,

I never had 98SE. When I decided to get my first comp it came with Me. But from what I read people like 98SE and, if they are going to upgrade, go to XP.

From what you say you are still on dial-up - something else I have never used. It also sounds as though you want to keep your folders to a minimum when you say "...delete IE4 before installing IE6" But if that were possible, hewee, how would you then get back to the Windows Updates site in order to get IE6?

I guess, where you live, cable is not an option.

During the four years I did many re-installs of WinMe over itself and finished up with over 13,000 F & F. Now, after the format and install, with more or less the same stuff installed, I have less than 9,000. I like to think my comp is more responsive.

Thanks for the sharing, hewee.

[hewee]

I have cable now so he hee am loving it. I also downloaded the full version install of IE 6 so have that.

I have I think around 70,000 F & F. Well more if you could all the images etc on CD's I burned. Got to love and hate big hard drives. Love the room but I use it all too.

Someone is staying here and was help him on his laptop and he can only get online with his dialup modem. Man it is slow.