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01-Feb-2006, 07:27 AM
#541 | The app is published on Kelly's Korner. http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
Kelly's Korner is a very well-known and reputable site for helping XP users. Actually, it's a great site.
I suggest you do a Google search and see what you can find. If you find any problems, perhaps you can bring them to the attention of Kelly's Korner or anyone else you feel ought to know.
I'm moving on and will not expend further energy on rumors without any supporting facts. I think you need to get some facts. | | Distinguished Member with 12,137 posts. | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kokomo, IN Experience: More Input Please |
01-Feb-2006, 07:32 AM
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01-Feb-2006, 08:07 AM
#543 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by talon03 BluxMax, although I know you mean well, but if this software or it's developers had some coflict with Microsoft I'm sure Mike wouldn't be happy about having a link to it on his site. We try to stay well in the clear here at TSG | Since the proprietor of Kelly's Corner is a Microsoft MVP, I'm assuming that Microsoft probably doesn't have too much trouble with them posting the link. I don't see any indication that it's a problem link. From the post about it's performance, I also don't see that much improvement to get all worked up about.
__________________ Remember: Data you don't have at least two copies of is data you don't care about. Microsoft MVP - User Desktop Experience | | Senior Member with 152 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Experience: Advanced |
01-Feb-2006, 08:39 AM
#544 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Noyb |
Yes. That is the controversy I meant.
Sorry if I failed to make that clear.
It sure looks snazzy though. If you've never seen it, I think it's worth getting for that reason alone.
Given that people have been informed there is some controversy, I think all's fair after that. | | Senior Member with 1,024 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Newtownards, N. Ireland Experience: ....................Yeah sure why not. |
01-Feb-2006, 03:40 PM
#545 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by JohnWill Since the proprietor of Kelly's Corner is a Microsoft MVP, I'm assuming that Microsoft probably doesn't have too much trouble with them posting the link. I don't see any indication that it's a problem link. From the post about it's performance, I also don't see that much improvement to get all worked up about.  | Point taken 
Apologies Bluxmax | | Distinguished Member with 5,950 posts. | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Space Station #5 Experience: Space Cadet |
01-Feb-2006, 06:01 PM
#546 | If anyone sees a improvement from bootvis I would like to hear how they came about it.
I personally have never had any luck with it.
And don't feel to bad Talon.. The guy's over at the DFI forum told me it would burn up my MoBo | | Senior Member with 152 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Experience: Advanced |
01-Feb-2006, 06:15 PM
#547 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by talon03 Point taken 
Apologies Bluxmax  | Thanks Talon3 and no problem.
I respect you when you voice an objection in a polite way. In this way, we can have a dialog and learn things instead of a fight from which no good comes. | | Senior Member with 1,362 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Oklahoma City, OK, USA Experience: Intermediate |
01-Feb-2006, 09:35 PM
#548 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Space Cowboy If anyone sees a improvement from bootvis I would like to hear how they came about it.
I personally have never had any luck with it. | Nor have I, Space Cowboy. If you run it, you really should know just what you are doing (which I wasn't sure), as I remember, after I had used it, I did not shut it down properly and it ran in the background, just taking up resources, until I finally got it all removed from my pc's. There must be a reason Microsoft quit making it available. I would recommend it ONLY if you are very computer savvy - and then ONLY if it made a significant difference in your boot time. For me it definitely was not worth the effort that I put out trying it. | | Junior Member with 3 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Experience: Computer Illiterate |
01-Feb-2006, 09:41 PM
#549 | | | | Senior Member with 152 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto Experience: Advanced |
02-Feb-2006, 06:36 AM
#550 | Well, you have to understand a couple of things about it. And you have to be logical.
The point is that it monitors the process when you boot up the machine and then produces a report for you. You then can look at that report, see what parts are taking the most time and then do what you can to lighten the processing done there.
Some people install Boot-Vis and then run it and then feel cheated. Well, obviously you have to reboot so that it can prepare the reports before you can see the reports.
So you have to examine the menu for Boot-Vis and select the options so that when you next reboot, it will prepare the kind of report you want and then you have to examine those reports.
Some people feel cheated because they don't find any improvements to their boot times after installing Boot-Vis. Well, you have to do your part.
After installing Boot-Vis, you must set it up to prepare the reports. Then you reboot. Then you examine the reports. Then you make changes using tools like MSConfig, Services.msc, GPedit.msc, adjust the logon scripts, logoff scripts, adjust the performance setting of the System Properties Control Panel applet, perhaps adjust Indexing, adjust System Restore. There are a hundred and one other adjustments you can make depending on the report that is produced for you.
Now comes the real key. This is the important part. You must reboot your machine a second time after making the adjustments. If you don't do that, how will you ever notice a difference?
This is the most common complaint I see. People complain that they haven't seen any improvements in performance. But they never understood that they had to reboot, adjust and then reboot again to see the change.
This is not for the novice user. You have to understand some basic concepts. Perhaps this tool is not for everyone. But the problem may well be that most PC users don't understand enough about the basics to follow through the 3 or 4 steps required to make good use out of Boot-Vis.
Last edited by BluxMax : 03-Feb-2006 12:18 AM.
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02-Feb-2006, 07:29 AM
#551 | posted by mistake
Last edited by BluxMax : 03-Feb-2006 12:18 AM.
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02-Feb-2006, 02:15 PM
#552 | OK
Boot-vis was pulled from the general M$ site because it was never intended for general use by computer users
It was & is intended for systems developers to analyse production systems and set them up in the maost efficient way before dispatch
It's main intention was so an engineer could see which pieces of hardware or software were causing problems and which ones would be better | | Distinguished Member with 25,396 posts. | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, FL Experience: Intermediate |
02-Feb-2006, 08:16 PM
#553 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by i hate ram |
The link to spywareguard isn't working.  Thanks for the free downloads! | | Senior Member with 1,362 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Oklahoma City, OK, USA Experience: Intermediate |
02-Feb-2006, 08:32 PM
#554 | | | | Distinguished Member with 25,396 posts. | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Venice, FL Experience: Intermediate |
02-Feb-2006, 09:48 PM
#555 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by John Burns | Thank you, John Burns  It worked like a charm! Thanks! | |
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