   | Senior Member with 370 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: upper middle Experience: Between Beginner and Intermediate | |  Solved: Windows XP PRO CLEAR VIRTUAL MEMORY ON SHUTDOWN Go to Administrative Tools > Security Policy  | | | Trusted Advisor - Gone but never forgotten with 9,280 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Whitby, Ontario | | Out of curiosity, why would a home user want to do that?
BTW this will elongate shutdowns dramatically. | | | Senior Member with 370 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: upper middle Experience: Between Beginner and Intermediate | | Banking passwords, filled forms, letters to lawyer, financial records, etc., etc., etc.
Because I can. | | | Trusted Advisor - Gone but never forgotten with 9,280 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Whitby, Ontario | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by neos1 Banking passwords, filled forms, letters to lawyer, financial records, etc., etc., etc.
Because I can. | Filled forms, letters to lawyers, financial records and passwords are not "necessarily" going to be in the pagefile, AND can be found elsewhere. | | | Senior Member with 370 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: upper middle Experience: Between Beginner and Intermediate | | | | | | Trusted Advisor - Gone but never forgotten with 9,280 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Whitby, Ontario | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by neos1 | You have obviously missed the word that I used which was "necessarily" as well as the word AND.
If someone has access to your PC looking for lawyers letters or financial records, the last place they will be looking is the pagefile. They will be looking in the primary source for them. As well, since the pagefile is full of memory fragments with information that does not readily appear to be financial data or even legible characters, it requires a computer specialist and a forensic expert to interpret any information in that file.
If it makes you feel more secure, obviously continue to clear the file, but there are substantially more things that need securing before one worries about the pagefile. |  | Moderator with 96,701 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience | | Yep, I tried that once years ago, but I got tired of waiting for the computer to actually shutdown.  | | | Senior Member with 370 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: upper middle Experience: Between Beginner and Intermediate | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by JohnWill Yep, I tried that once years ago, but I got tired of waiting for the computer to actually shutdown. | I just thought it was these XEON processors and the fact that the computer is five years old.
I'm still gun shy about using the computer for banking and financial. Maybe it is going after gnats with a sledge hammer If the bad guys can't get to the page file except from in front of the key board then I reconsider my position.
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Once that occurs, what's in the pagefile is a moot point.
Which is why I said the last thing one needs to worry about, in regard to privacy/security, is the pagefile. |  | Senior Member with 1,746 posts. | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Emerald Isle Experience: is the name we give our m |
02-Jun-2007, 05:19 PM
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If someone has access to your PC looking for lawyers letters or financial records, the last place they will be looking is the pagefile.
| correction: if you seize a computer, clone the drive and go for the swap file (computer forensics 101) | | | Senior Member with 370 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: upper middle Experience: Between Beginner and Intermediate |
02-Jun-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Oracle correction: if you seize a computer, clone the drive and go for the swap file (computer forensics 101) | This of course would matter only if one were doing something illegal or endeavoring to exercise ones constitutional rights. | | | Moderator with 96,701 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience |
03-Jun-2007, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Oracle correction: if you seize a computer, clone the drive and go for the swap file (computer forensics 101) | Hell, if you've seized the computer, only an idiot would look there first! I agree that in the case of a total investigation, you'd probably look for clues there at some point, but that's sure not the place to start. | | | Senior Member with 370 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: upper middle Experience: Between Beginner and Intermediate |
04-Jun-2007, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnWill Hell, if you've seized the computer, only an idiot would look there first! I agree that in the case of a total investigation, you'd probably look for clues there at some point, but that's sure not the place to start. | Unless I'm missing something, the page file is the only place to find my password to my encrypted files. I am not sure how secure Roboform is but I trust it with all my passwords. | | | Trusted Advisor - Gone but never forgotten with 9,280 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Whitby, Ontario |
04-Jun-2007, 09:51 AM
#14 | What did you encrypt them with?
And, I don't think the password is kept in the pagefile, since it is perfectly legit to delete and have the pagefile re-created. Thus, if the password were there, all would be lost.
It is most likely kept (in encrypted form) in the registry. Which is also where Roboform most likely keeps it's entries. | | | Moderator with 96,701 posts. | | Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Eastern PA, USA Experience: Advanced age & experience |
04-Jun-2007, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by neos1 Unless I'm missing something, the page file is the only place to find my password to my encrypted files. I am not sure how secure Roboform is but I trust it with all my passwords. | Your password is most CERTAINLY not in the paging file! Trust me, even though the Windows folks screw up a lot, they aren't that stupid! | |
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