[supersparky]

i would like to know that at the car dealer, the invoice that dealer show how much they paid for the manufacture is always correct?, can the dealer have the invoice mark up the price from the manufacture ?, and how do i find out exactly how much it worth .Thank you very much.

[DoubleHelix]

Aside from this not being at all related to computers, you will never know exactly what a dealer paid for a car anymore than you can know what Wal-Mart paid for a TV.

[hewee]

Some car maker have at there site what they sell there cars to dealers for and any other rebates a dealer gets so you can find out what a dealer really paid for a car and also if they got any added money back that really lowered the cost more. I know I seen it at Ford's web site in the pass but don't know about others.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oq=What+dealer

Plus they say if your selling a car too to get a price on what they will give you first before dealing with the price on buying.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by supersparky

i would like to know that at the car dealer, the invoice that dealer show how much they paid for the manufacture is always correct?, can the dealer have the invoice mark up the price from the manufacture ?, and how do i find out exactly how much it worth .Thank you very much.

There is the manufacturer's suggested retail price, but the price the dealer pays is difficult to figure. There are rebates to the dealer that are figured at the end of a sales period dependent on the volume the dealer sells plus incentives from the manufacturer on specific models.

A TSG member, Guyzer, is in auto sales and can probably provide some good info on the subject. You might ask him in a PM.

[angelize56]

Hiya Smilin' Jack....I bet you love supersparky's member name!

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by angelize56

Hiya Smilin' Jack....I bet you love supersparky's member name!

But you are and always will be .......'Sparky' with a capital 'S'..................

[Alys]

A dealer will always charge you more for a car than what they paid for it from the manufacture, know why? so they profit from it to pay for leasing the building they operate from, pay their employee's, and any other fee's or profits that need to be covered or made. For example, my boyfriend works at best buy, for his staff discount he pays what the company paid for plus 10% of that price, so if something is being sold for 300 but the company bought it for 100 he would pay 110 for it. Hope that makes sense.

[JohnWill]

I visit Kelly Blue Book and Edmonds when I'm shopping for a car, new or used.

[BlackSpike]

IMHO: Does it matter what the dealer paid?
What is important is how much you are being asked to pay.
If the dealer payed $500, and is asking you for $600, is that better or worse than the dealer paying $50 and asking you for $500?
Are these new cars or used you are talking about?

In a Capitalist Economy, an item is worth exactly the amount someone will pay for it.
Check other dealers, see how much they are charging and compare prices.

[JohnWill]

That's a short sighted viewpoint. Just because other people are over paying for something, that doesn't mean you have to. If you don't have a realistic idea of what the car actually costs the dealer, there's no way you can make the best deal possible.

OTOH, I'll bet you're a car dealer's delight, someone that comes in with no idea what he should pay for the car!

[Stoner]

Don't forget, the dealer is also competing for the sale and must judge what they think will be an accepted price.
So, what a dealer pays is important as a volume dealer is more likely to purchase at a greater discount from the manufacturer and pass along some of that savings as an incentive to the buyer to purchase at that dealership..............
So.......... it does matter.

[BlackSpike]

Originally Posted by JohnWill

That's a short sighted viewpoint. Just because other people are over paying for something, that doesn't mean you have to. If you don't have a realistic idea of what the car actually costs the dealer, there's no way you can make the best deal possible.

OTOH, I'll bet you're a car dealer's delight, someone that comes in with no idea what he should pay for the car!

Check other dealers, see how much they are charging and compare prices.

I think this implies an idea of how much to pay.

Is it possible to check the Dealer's overheads? How much rent they pay for premises, employees wage levels, Bad Debt provision? If you don't have a realistic idea of what the car costs the dealer to buy/stock/sell, there's no way to know if the deal you made is the best you could have got.

pass along some of that savings as an incentive to the buyer to purchase at that dealership

Meaning a cheaper price.
Yes, cost to dealer affects cost to customer, but it is rarely a simple relationship.

EDIT: P.S. Car dealers do not like me much, on account of very rarely buying a car. Once I have bargained for the best deal I can get (with more regard for how much I think I should pay, rather than how much the dealer paid), I keep the car for as long as possible, doing as much maintenance myself as I can.

[aarhus2004]

Every post.

[Stoner]

Could be worse, I could have posted something about playing music:

http://forums.techguy.org/tech-tips-...ml#post4817179

[aarhus2004]

Down with JohnWill