[simpswr]

Way too much emotion here . . it's just a piece of software after all . . not like it determinses World Peace

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Conne'isseur

I noticed that you said that he is biased, but I guess microsoft is not when they are explaining their garbage program. Your quite selective aren't you? Why don't you apply your same line of reasoning to microsoft? Are they not biased? In fact the real question is who is more biased? A company that stands to make millions, or some guy who want to help keep freedom? Who stands to gain what? Anyone with common sense knows to follow the money. It must be really convenient for you to request this, but not apply it equally across the board. That type of reasoning really discredits you.

I'm not here defending Microsoft......I'm here to understand why and what I need to consider about upgrading to Vista.
I have no idea why you bring the concept of 'freedom' into this thread. I can use any one of many distros of Linux or BSD if I so chose. Right now I chose not to, because Linux does not offer what I need.

or some guy who want to help keep freedom

Freedom?...What in the world are you talking about?
Linux is still free.
Sullivan is free to recommend and use Linux all he wants.....you too.

Who stands to gain what?

If Sullivan wants to give something away, that's his right if it's his to start with.
We're not a Communist State, yet.
Gates does not have to give anything away, no matter how many issues his product has.

Anyone with common sense knows to follow the money.

??
What in the world are you talking about?

It must be really convenient for you to request this, but not apply it equally across the board.

Request what?

That type of reasoning really discredits you.

Who are you addressing that question to, and what reasoning are you talking about?


Seems to me you've shifted the topic away from issues with Vista to a hate campaign of MS.
Well I've had my issues in the past with MS Windows, too.
I just don't feel that emotional over software that costs as little as $100.

How about going back to discussing Vista?

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by jakearoo1jak

I got Home Premium 64bit today...im actually surprised at how awesome it is. The only problem im experiencing with it is this driver problem (see my other thread).
So if you're reading this and considering not buying Vista, go ahead and buy it! You'll love it like I do!

And this ^^^^ from the thread starter.



I guess open minds do change.

I do think I'll wait a bit longer before making up my mind.
Right now I don't need it.
The built in voice recognition does look interesting.

[JohnWill]

I'm just following the thread with amusement. How people can get so hot & bothered over insignificant issues escapes me.

[Stoner]

Good thing TSG isn't a Ford versus Chevy site ..................

[good grief]

"How people can get so hot & bothered over insignificant issues escapes me."

I must admit I have several times been tempted to start a thread asking about that.

"Good thing TSG isn't a Ford versus Chevy site"

Perish the thought!

For those considering buying Vista though, I would like to respond to Conne'isseur's comment in post 82:

"Finally: Well, if Microsoft understands that a person wants to decide to install their own updates, then they should be respectful of that user's choice and be consistent with their policy. Being consistent means that they should tell the user that an update to Windows Update is available and that if they want it to continue to work properly, that this update should be installed. Maybe the user will decide to stop using Windows Update altogether, or maybe they will install the update. Either way, it should be the user that decides, not Microsoft."

The options have always been there. I don't understand the comment.

[JohnWill]

Good point, and that's only one of the many comments that I don't get.

[good grief]

Yeah, me too, but I didn't want to escalate the emotional thing going on here by going point by point. This seemed to be the least controversial one.

[JohnWill]

Very true.

[new tech guy]

When it comes to it, i beleive another poster stated it but just use the tool for the job. My lappy has windows vista and i do everything i need to on it. My desktop has linux for learning. Both do their jobs.

[Lowtechie]

Originally Posted by Covenant

I wonder if Vista also has trouble opening corrupt files on 5.25" floppies...

You mean BEERMATS ?????
(For newer readers, 5.25" diskettes were the forerunner to the now obsolete 3.5" or 9cm diskettes that your Dad used to use. They supplanted the previous 8" floppies, which really were floppy, and really were 8" no boasting And yes I do remember them, and I do know the idiot who tried folding one in half to get it into the 5.25" drive!!")

[Lowtechie]

But to go back to the topic, my main issue with Vista is the lack of back compatibility, although I'll give full marks for trying with the impressive looking "compatibility mode" utility.
The things I have not figured yet are
1) How to get my scanners working - Agfa Snapscan E50 and PrimeFilm 1800 slide scanner.
Does vuescan do what it says on the tin?? I resent paying another 40 bucks on top of the price of the new lappy, but heigh ho money-pit
2) How to get Corel Photohouse working - it just dies in a hole with an unhelpful error message - basically "I've died". Is that another dosh-hole. I don't need the latest multimedia suites - I don't have a vid-cam apart from the built in spy-cam on the new lappy, and the obligatory camera on my mobile phone (why?? - I've got a camera ..... but that's another rant for a different thread! chunner chunner chunner)
Spending £400 or so to replace my obsolete pc is one thing - having to lay out several ton more to get the thing running and talking to all my peripherals, I resent!!
CB

[Justawind]

I plan on holding off on Vista till I have no choice. I am a big Dell fan and they still offer XP so that is where I will be staying.

[Amppy]

Seven reasons ... I can give one .... more crap to buy and make the richer get richer.