   | Member with 65 posts. | | | | Installing Ubuntu - driver difficulties. Well I'm fed up with Vista and I've decided to put on a tux.
I won't be in a position to torrent anything unless I find a low security internet cafe that I want to sit around for two hours--so I bought a magazine with a copy of Ubuntu 6.10 on it.
The problem is that it doesn't detect my Samsung HM060HI ATA storage device. I've shrunk my C partition and part of a recovery drive to free up about 5 gbs to start with. The only reason I don't just delete all my NTFS partitions is that I have a lot of data I don't want to lose and no real way to store it. I figure I'll just slowly move the data over and continually change the volume sizes.
Anywho I'm getting sidetracked. How am I suppose to install Ubuntu if it doesn't come with a driver for my laptop's main storage device?
I also can't get the live CD to detect the local wireless network... but I'll start a new post for that after I get this installation matter fixed.
Thanks
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 | Senior Member with 674 posts. | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa, Florida, USA Experience: Intermediate | | 5GB is not really sufficient for a Linux OS installation, in my opinion. However, that's neither here nor there till you solve this drive detection problem. Are you only running one hard drive? No RAID setup, right?
Wireless can be a bit of a problem for some Linux distros. I don't use wireless, so I'll have to pass on giving any advice in that department.
When you say that the Ubuntu Live CD doesn't recognize the hard drive, have you started the install at this point? What error notice does the installation give you?
The more info you can give, the easier it'll be for folks to assist you... system specs, hardware, etc.
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***Tempus Fugits*** |  | Distinguished Member with 2,774 posts. | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Newcastle Experience: A Linux user gone nuts on multi-boot | | In Ubuntu, click terminal, issue command that should list out every partition you have in every hard disk.
You can only say Ubuntu can't recognise it if the Sata isn't there.
On the 5Gb partition size. I would say all of my 4 Ubuntu plus at least 100 other distros are all housed in a 5Gb partition but I so have a data-only partition, that I can mount in every system, for my personal data. | | | Member with 65 posts. | | | | When I do "sudo fdisk -l" it just doesn't output anything at all.
When I install from within the live CD boot it just sends me to a partition manager but doesn't give me anything to manage. When I try and install from the OEM installer it tells me that it can't detect the driver for the hard disk and I need to choose one; then it gives me a really long list of driver numbers that don't mean much of anything to me. I tried using one that said "general" and that didn't work. The rest are either model numbers or something... all I know is that it definitely doesn't give me manufacturer names.
When I'm booting the live CD there is a point where it gives an error on an all black terminal-like screen (don't know what its called) and says that it can't detect a hard drive. I wish I could give you more information but it only stays up for a second and then disappears... maybe I'll try and take a photo of it or something.
EDIT: Oh, and I'd give the install a good 10 gigs if I could properly defrag my C partition. I'm using O&O Defrag and everything starts out alright but as it goes parts of the data get "locked" and it won't move. I tried defragging in safemode but Vista won't let me start the defrag service, both the O&O one and the Microsoft one, while in safemode.
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I was going to put something extremely intelligent here, thing is I forgot it. | | | Distinguished Member with 2,774 posts. | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Newcastle Experience: A Linux user gone nuts on multi-boot | | The curiosity got the better of me and so I booted up my Ubuntu to have a look.
The oldest one I have is v5.04 and surely it can't recognise a Sata, as Ubuntu in those days wasn't anywhere as well developed as today.
I then tried the next one up Ubuntu 6.04 and this is the truncated fdisk -l output Code: saikee@ubuntu-dapper:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Password:
Disk /dev/sda: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 5099 40957686 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 5100 6315 9767520 93 Amoeba
/dev/sda3 6316 6923 4883760 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 6924 24792 143532742+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 6924 7531 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 7532 8139 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 8140 8747 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 8748 9355 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda9 9356 9963 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda10 9964 10571 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda11 10572 11179 4883728+ a9 NetBSD
/dev/sda12 11180 11787 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda13 * 11788 12395 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda14 12396 23916 92542401 1c Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda15 23917 24792 7036438+ 83 Linux
Warning: omitting partitions after #60.
They will be deleted if you save this partition table.
Disk /dev/hda: 300.0 GB, 300090728448 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36483 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 122 979933+ 16 Hidden FAT16
/dev/hda2 123 244 979965 16 Hidden FAT16
/dev/hda3 245 366 979965 16 Hidden FAT16
/dev/hda4 367 36483 290109802+ 5 Extended
/dev/hda5 367 609 1951866 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda6 610 1217 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda7 1218 1825 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda8 1826 2433 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda9 2434 3041 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda10 3042 3649 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda11 3650 4257 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda12 4258 4865 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda13 4866 5473 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda14 5474 6081 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda15 6082 6689 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda16 6690 7297 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda17 7298 7905 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda18 7906 8513 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda19 8514 9121 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda20 9122 9729 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda21 9730 10337 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda22 10338 10945 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda23 10946 11553 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda24 11554 12161 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda25 12162 12769 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda26 12770 13377 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda27 13378 13985 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda28 13986 14593 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda29 14594 15201 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda30 15202 15809 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda31 15810 16417 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda32 16418 17025 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda33 17026 17633 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda34 17634 18241 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda35 18242 18849 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda36 18850 19457 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda37 19458 20065 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda38 20066 20673 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda39 20674 21281 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda40 21282 21889 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda41 21890 22497 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda42 22498 23105 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda43 23106 23713 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda44 23714 24321 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda45 24322 24929 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda46 24930 25537 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda47 25538 26145 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda48 26146 26753 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda49 26754 27361 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda50 27362 27969 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda51 27970 28577 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda52 28578 29185 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda53 29186 29793 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda54 29794 30401 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda55 30402 31009 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda56 31010 31617 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda57 31618 32833 9767488+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda58 32834 34049 9767488+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda59 34050 34657 4883728+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda60 34658 35265 4883728+ 83 Linux
Sorry to include the 63-partition of hda but in Linux hda is a Pata and sda is a Sata. The above clearly shows Sata is recognised by Ubuntu back in V6.04.
It is possible for an installed Ubuntu to recognise a Sata but its installer can't during the installation phase but that is rare.
In conclusion I couldn't advise further if your newer Ubuntu fails to recognise the Sata disk. The obvious route for you is to try a few more modern distros.
From my experience if your Sata is working with Vista then your hardware should have no problem to the Linux.
Lastly if you are not aware of the new Windows Vista has an resizer program in the disk management. You can use it to resize the partition, pressumably without the need to defrag the partition first. I used it and it is pretty fast too. | | | Member with 65 posts. | | | | Alright, this is what it says while booting. I took a picture and tried to copy it all down. The picture was blurry though so some of the periods might be commas... I dunno. Code: [17179702.004000] bcm48xx: Error: Microcode 'bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' not available or load failed.
firmware_helper[4644]: main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:05:00.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[17179702.024000] bcm48xx: Error: Microcode 'bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' not available or load failed.
firmware_helper[4609]: main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:05:00.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
* Activating swap... [ ok ]
mount: Function not implemented
* Checking file systems
fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006) [ ok ]
I really just think the install CD is missing the driver for my hard disk.
When I run the OEM Installer I get this error right before it starts up Code: [17179572.052000] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000:00:05.0
[17179572.052000] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 8 of bridge 0000:00:05.0
It continues the installer after that until it gets to detecting disks. Then it says "No disk drive was detected. If you know the driver for your disk drive please select it from the list." I selected "none of the above" and it sent me to another screen that offers to let me insert a floppy with the driver. Since I have no floppies or drivers for that matter that doesn't help any. I tried googling around for Samsung HM060HI ATA ubuntu drivers and I've found nothing so far.
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| | | Member with 65 posts. | | | | Yeah I'm aware of Vista's partition tool. When I first tried to do it, it told me by how much I could shrink it.... by "0 MBs"...
So I turned off the page file and set it to defrag a while, I got impatient and saw that much of the data was "locked" and wouldn't be moved anyway and stopped the defrag to see if it helped any. It now read that I could shrink it by around 2500 mbs. So I shrunk it by 2 gigs and then shrunk the recovery drive by 3. That's where I'm getting my 5 gigs to try and install this distro.
EDIT: Maybe I should try a different distro? I saw a magazine with a SUSE disk pasted to it today. This whole not being able to torrent things sucks.
EDIT2: Nevermind! I can torrent. Vista was blocking it without telling me. I've started downloading an ISO for Linspire... I guess that's sort of the easy way out isn't it? Any suggestions for a distro? Or just a suggestion to get Ubuntu working?
EDIT3: I just realised that Linspire isn't free... so I've canceled the downloaded. What about Freespire?
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|  | Senior Member with 460 posts. | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Experience: Advanced | | The best thing would be to to use Vista to look at the hardware profile and tell of which SATA chipset your motherboard uses.
Then we can tell you which distro to use. I would stick with the main end user distros like K/ubuntu, OpenSuSe, PCLinuxOS. Even if they don't boot now, it might be possible once we find out what SATA chipset you have. | | | Member with 65 posts. | | | | Okay... I've no idea how to figure out what sata chipset my motherboard is using.
Any directions? |  | Distinguished Member with 3,430 posts. | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Experience: Getting it |
25-Feb-2007, 04:34 PM
#10 | I am relatively new to computers and I am brand new to Linux, a week tonight, I find PCLinuxOS pretty easy to use. Seems to have everything needed to just start using and forget about windows altogether if that is what you wish. It even has firefox pre-installed.
A couple of questions to answer and you are online. Which I was really happy about as I have a router and a modem so wasn't sure what to expect.
Has all the tools needed to partition and format. If you run the LiveCD first, there is installation instructions on your desktop explaining how to set-up a dual boot system, which I did. This is just a test release, 2nd, but final is due out in less than a week I believe. I don't mind this test version, only a couple of issues, nothing I can't live with or work around until the final release version.
As a newbie, I can highly recommend it to others just starting out with Linux.
Welcome to the 21st Century.(At least that is how I feel) |  | Senior Member with 158 posts. | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ft.Lauderdale Fl. Experience: Advanced |
25-Feb-2007, 05:00 PM
#11 | To see the chipset this should help;
lspci
with ubuntu
sudo lspci
For some of the newer motherboards with sata you need to add this option to grub.
pci=nomsi | | | Member with 65 posts. | | |
25-Feb-2007, 09:14 PM
#12 | Okay this is what I got. Code: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 10)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 5a37
00:06.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4380
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4387
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4388
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4389
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 438a
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 438b
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4386
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4385 (rev 13)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 438c
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4383
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 438d
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 4384
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
08:01.0 Class 0805: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
08:01.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd Unknown device 0843 (rev 01)
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
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25-Feb-2007, 09:27 PM
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25-Feb-2007, 10:00 PM
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