[lightnb]

i think i found the solotion to the problems ive been haveing. but like MYST, the popular game from Cyan, one solution opens the door to another problem. i thought i had installed linux, but apparently the installer just dumped me in a minimal root prompt, and im supposed to figure out how to finish the setup myself.
if anyone knows how to Finish the installation of
Gentoo Linux, (i686) (its the 135 Meg. ISO version), let me know.

[vpn]

welcome to linux... now... RTFM

[pvc9]

vpn,
Could you plz tell what this means exactly?

welcome to linux... now... RTFM

[vpn]

it means, that lightnb has installed gentoo linux and is at the root prompt, and needs to rtfm...

[monted]

he means "read the manual" lol

[AcaCandy]

vpn, I've seen a couple of your responses in threads now, and they don't seem very helpful.....perhaps if you don't have more to offer......it's best not to post........

[pvc9]

Ok! Thx for the update.

[scud]

vpn doesn't seem to be a retard... he is giving the answer though... so quit spamming acacandy

[AcaCandy]

Originally posted by scud:
vpn doesn't seem to be a retard... he is giving the answer though... so quit spamming acacandy

Excuse me? I did see that you edited your post.........and joining all of today no less.......

[lynch]

scud should RTFM to learn what spamming means.
vpn,that's not an answer to lightnb's Q-it's a non-answer.
Your on the ball,AcaCandy
lynch

[pvc9]

lynch,
Yes thats not an answer at all. Wouldnt lightnb know that he would have to go through the manual if at all he wanted some info.

vpn,
People come here to get their problems solved and not to get useless information. You need to give genuine solutions else dont post at all.

scud,
How do you feel so? And instead of supporting vpn you could have posted to help lightnb. Thats what is needed and there is no need to support someone who gives useless information as an advice. You're new here so dont start supporting the members yet(and mainly when they are wrong).

AC,
I guess they are really making a fuss out of this thread. Better Close this, lightnd can start a new one if he wants to.

If anyone really wants to give genuine information then they should and thats about it.

BTW, vpn I dont know if your English is poor or you dont know what programs really run in Windows. I saw a post of yours where you used the word nutscrape when it had to be NETSCAPE in another thread in a different forum. Post replies if and only if you know something genuine and if you can help others. This is not a forum to have fun. If you want to have fun then better check some other site.

[vpn]

what is above, is an answer. he has installed linux. he is at the root prompt. he now needs to read a manual, and learn how to use it. cant any of you grasp this simple concept of reading? evidentally not. if he had posted a question, such as... "how do i start the xserver and load gnome?" i would have told him how to. but instead, it was a vauge post asking how to install linux, if he hadnt, when it was already successfully installed. he should have read up on it, and also had a couple books on it before jumping into it.


lynch should learn what propper grammar is, before telling someone else to learn something. none of my posts have been spam, or "junk."

spam Pronunciation Key (spm)
Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.

tr.v. spammed, spam·ming, spams
To send unsolicited e-mail to.
To send (a message) indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups.

2. (A narrowing of sense 1, above) To indiscrimately send large amounts of unsolicited e-mail meant to promote a product or service. Spam in this sense is sort of like the electronic equivalent of junk mail sent to "Occupant".

3. (Apparently a generalisation of sense 2, above) To abuse any network service or tool by for promotional purposes.

4. <jargon, programming> To crash a program by overrunning a fixed-size buffer with excessively large input data

5. <chat, games> (A narrowing of sense 1, above) To flood any chat forum or Internet game with purposefully annoying text or macros. Compare Scrolling.

if i have done, or do any of this, on this forum, please let me know.


what these people are getting is what you call "useless information." i have yet to see anyone get an actual strait forward answer, without first spending time answering useless time wasting questions, its like calling tech support, and being put on hold and being run through worthless diagnostic tests.


and this is for all of you, if you cant detect sarcasm, or take a joke, none of you need to be on the internet. now you will simply come and say, "this forum is not for joking, or sarcasm," well, did you know that no community will survive without some level of humor? it will simply crumble over time. i know plenty of "genuine" things, alot more than most people, and i do help others... but my posts that actually helped, being deleted doesnt help either.

[lynch]

Well,vpn,I actually want to apoligize-I meant to address scud about the spamming thingI edited my post to correct that.
I still hold that your reply was a non-answer-it just an overused acronym/catchphrase that I see more often than I care to.
Thanks for the comprehensive explanation of what spam is.
lynch

[lightnb]

the problem was, that the manual had ended. it said that it was a minimal root promp, and i had to finish building the operating system. as a general rule of thumb, as i have found, manuals only come with things that you already know how to use (like a toaster, or a computer monitor).
i went ahead, as was sugguested, and installed Mandrake Linux instead, and made life eiser. i guess now that that done, this thread is no longer needed, and can be closed.

[codejockey]

At the risk of extending an already-extended thread ...

I think there are a number of points made here. Although I agree that vpn posted legitimate answers, I also agree that the answers could have been more informative (after all, RTFM is always good advice! () -- and the truth of the matter is that the Unix (and by extension, Linux) documentation motto is: "if you have to ask, you don't need to know" -- which is hardly helpful to those starting out. When you are beginning, you don't know what you don't know -- and you certainly can't be expected to understand all of the technical terms and details of an explanation posted by someone more knowledgable.

This is precisely why many major Linux distributions configure your system to boot automatically into a graphical interface, with sound support, etc. Gentoo Linux, in contrast, is a fairly low-level distribution, and expects far more knowledge on the part of the installer than (for example) Mandrake, SuSe or RedHat. Although lightnb may have chosen a more difficult distribution to install, that choice may not have been made with complete information about what knowledge was expected from the installer.

Nonetheless, many posters have not done their homework or even tried to find the answer for themselves (even by searching the archives here!); instead, they may be looking for a quick and easy solution to their problem. Although this may be the most expedient solution, it will not serve in the long run. Fundamentals are everything (IMHO) -- a "solution" that you do not understand is not a real solution -- it's superstitious behavior. It's also easy to get in over your head too quickly -- especially with something like Unix/Linux -- and find yourself unprepared. We've all been there; we were all newbies once -- and the truth is, we all can learn from each other, no matter how refined or esoteric our skills have become.

A closing thought: "Teaching should be the whisper of suggestion, not the shout of command ..." -- Jurgen Habermas