[r_khan]

Hello,
i use ms frontpage 2000 for doing all my webpage needs.

we are giving a makeover of our club site (muslim student association) for our school.

however. i was wondering if there are already PREMADE islamic related layouts/themes that i can use(including use of arabic caligraphy, mosques as backgrounds, general islamic art)?

i can't find any on the web.

can you guys please help me?

[Sequal7]

2 minutes on google....

Bunch of clipart here:
http://islam.about.com/blclipart.htm

Various links to temples, mosques etc:
http://www.islamdigital.com/search/i...c-picture.html

Great site of links:
http://www.sultan.org/

[r_khan]

Originally Posted by Sequal7

2 minutes on google....

Bunch of clipart here:
http://islam.about.com/blclipart.htm

Various links to temples, mosques etc:
http://www.islamdigital.com/search/i...c-picture.html

Great site of links:
http://www.sultan.org/

thank you but i was actually looking for a LAYOUT...Not stuff to but on my website. Like a layout of the site...get it?

thanks though!

[r_khan]

okay i found what i was looking for. here are the sites...all i need to know now is which layout/template to use for my college club.

help me...

thank you!

http://www.freelayouts.com/
http://www.zeroweb.org/vc/2/2

[haswalt]

i don't think you should really use a template, i prefer the more personal look and i hate seeing the same template on about 10 websites.

but anyway that was not what you asked me.

I can't help you until we know wat kind of site you are loooking to create. You say it is for a club.. Is it a very formal one, a busy one etc. Let us know then i will help you decide.

[Snacky]

I could make one for you, but I couldn't afford to do it for free. I'm a freelancer by trade and need money to survive.

If you don't find anything you like, email or PM me details of what you want and I'll give you a fair deal.

[Sequal7]

Well r_khan, thank you, here is my rebuttal.

Are you really so inept that you need someone else to create the layout?
The links I provided you show you what several sites look like (LAYOUTS, get it?) with free graphics, images, sounds, and several actual site contained within, so you could get an idea of what a real site looks like.
Because you didn’t state what you want is a template not a layout, then I’m sorry, no I did not get it!

To create a layout, research is required, and then your projected design for the client/project can include ideas from your research.
Templates.....well, are lame in my opinion because you and perhaps a million of your not so close friends or possibly competitors also have your site design....Nicely done.

BTW - Can you tell me where exactly the Islamic layouts are in the links you posted? I could not see them there either, yet given your sarcasm, they must be there?

Once again, I will submit about 2 seconds of google, hours of reading fun for you.

Cheers, and good luck with that

[r_khan]

Originally Posted by Sequal7

Well r_khan, thank you, here is my rebuttal.

Are you really so inept that you need someone else to create the layout?
The links I provided you show you what several sites look like (LAYOUTS, get it?) with free graphics, images, sounds, and several actual site contained within, so you could get an idea of what a real site looks like.
Because you didn’t state what you want is a template not a layout, then I’m sorry, no I did not get it!

To create a layout, research is required, and then your projected design for the client/project can include ideas from your research.
Templates.....well, are lame in my opinion because you and perhaps a million of your not so close friends or possibly competitors also have your site design....Nicely done.

BTW - Can you tell me where exactly the Islamic layouts are in the links you posted? I could not see them there either, yet given your sarcasm, they must be there?

Once again, I will submit about 2 seconds of google, hours of reading fun for you.

Cheers, and good luck with that

Sequal7,
I'm sorry my post offened you and no those sites were not supposed to include/have islamic layouts...can't find any.

They were just examples of websites so people would know what i was talking about.

Im sorry you got angry. I had no intention of doing so.

On another note,

i have come to realize that the layout websites really have no use for me. I am going have to do the personal look.

So Haswalt and others here are your answers:
"wat kind of site you are loooking to create. You say it is for a club.. Is it a very formal one, a busy one etc."

The club is a religious club. It is called the muslim student assoication. I want the layout to be around islam...like i wouldn't want pictures or background with animals, celebrites, movies, flowers, etc.

Here is our current website to give you some ideas (remember, we already have one, but we are making it get a makeover...)

thanks again!

[haswalt]

ok i see you site is quite average. if you waould like me to design a temlplate layout with css i could give it a go. for free.

[r_khan]

Originally Posted by haswalt

ok i see you site is quite average. if you waould like me to design a temlplate layout with css i could give it a go. for free.

hey...well thank you....but ive done some stuf fon my own...what u think. im not done with the second page yet but the index is done..
here

[Jaim]

It is not a very original site layout, but i will give you some praise if you are new to this.
I have some comments tough.

The first page isn't really impressive and is sometimes totally unnecessary.

On the index page, why do you have all the flashy "animations" for? You really don't need them. The one around the "latest updates" is just ugly.

The navigation bar... The "meeting minutes" is a bit messy. Try another look for the navigation bar.

Also, try to have the "updates" a bit below the main text instead of to the right.
But it's your choice.

Good luck in the future.

[haswalt]

i agree. to much crap on the screen. simplify it and make it easier to use then it will look good. if you want those animations and stuff on the page y not consider flash? all in all a reasonable effort tho

[r_khan]

hey guys. okay there is a lot of confusion going on here. the only page that i MADE for the NEW layout is this page.

However this page is the OLD version. I didnt make that page. Somebody else did. I want to spice it up a bit with flash, but i have NO experience whatsoever in flash.

So i was wondering, haswalt, if you could like set up a flash thing for me with a certian number of icons and the pictures that i want implemented into the site, but I WILL paste the text and what not unless if you want to.

I want the flash program to be very appealing, cutting edge, awesome and a way where there is a database of like 10 pictures, but everytime one visits the site, there will be a random picture that will be shown. Here is an example (click refresh to see what i mean and look at the picture).

here are some other nice examples:
http://www.yale.edu/msa
http://www.icnyu.org/

[Jaim]

The old page was a bit bad, but your page i just one page with a picture in it. Not very much we can help with layout if all we see is that. Why not just do a layout and post it here and we can give comments and suggestions?

For the flash thing, you really don't want something to flashy. Trust me. It might sound good, but web pages with much flash never really makes me wanna get the hell out of there. Less flash, more content.

If you want flash, then get Macromedia's Flash MX.
I've never worked with it before, but Fireworks i have and i was happy with it.

Otherwise, you might want to get someone professional to help you.
There are probably people who might do it for free, but my bet is you will find more who want some payment.

[r_khan]

Okay. here is the new page i am currently working on...the links works so just click the picture on the website.

i want flash and basiaclly just a really attractive site.