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30-Jun-2005, 12:09 AM #1
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What does it mean when I can see the website I am hosting by putting in my private IP http://192.168.2.113
but not when I put in the actual website or my ip? I just recently changed isp's and getting things setup to work right has caused me to lose something I had set right before. I had to return the router to its default settings etc. I think I have all the ports forwarded right. Thank you
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30-Jun-2005, 01:50 AM #2
Its only accessible within your network. Either your ports aren't forwarded correctly, or the server isn't configured properly.
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30-Jun-2005, 11:50 PM #3
Which ports do you need forwarded?
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01-Jul-2005, 11:30 AM #4
For a web site it would be port 80.
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01-Jul-2005, 12:02 PM #5
I believe I have port 80 forwarded. I asked my isp if they blocked ports and they said no. I have a linksys wrt54 g router with the firmware upgraded today. The port range
0 to 80 tcp then the private ip address of my server. Does that sound right?
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just 80, not 0-80. Starting port 80 and ending port 80
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02-Jul-2005, 12:38 PM #7
Ok,
Here is what I have done. I made the changes listed above by rockn to my port forwarding. I also ran the internet and email configuration page of my server adding my new isp's dns settings. I called the isp and they have told me twice that they don't block ports. I can now email out with MS exchange using Jerry@mydomain.com but it seems I cannot receive email in to mydomain also the website can be pinged but I cannot pull it up in the browser nor can type in my ip in the browser and get the website. Any new ideas.
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02-Jul-2005, 12:57 PM #8
If your running a mail server in house you also need to forward ports 25 and 110 to be able to send and receive from a domain hosted locally. All DNS records also need to be pointng to your WAN interface if your web site is going to work via domain name. It sounds like your MX record is set up correctly. Are you running a DNS server locally as well.
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02-Jul-2005, 01:52 PM #9
What do you mean when you say if i am running a dns server locally ?
I had already forwarded ports 25 and 110. I am not sure what you mean when you ask if I am running a DNS server locally as well. Here is how things are set up.
I have talkamerica for my isp. There modem is a router also but not a switch.
I configured my linksys router to work with the talkamerica modem. This changed the linksys routers configuration page to 192.168.2.1. The modems configuration page is 192.168.1.1
My servers network card is set up like this
ip address 192.168.2.113
subnet mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.2.1
preferred dns server 192.168.2.113

I have a one nic set up because I run my server out of my house and don't want everyone else to have to log on to the network just to get online also if the server is down no one could get on the internet. I have a 16 port linksys switch that is connected to the linksys router. I am able to get on the internet fine. I put the dns numbers given to me by my isp when I ran the internet and email configuration page.
preferred dns 71.4.96.36
alternate dns 71.4.96.44
default gateway 192.168.2.1
I can still access my website by typing in the ip of the server but not any other way.
Thanks for your help!
PS let me add under server management IIS sever local computer websites it lists website as running. A few tabs over it says ip address unassigned. It does list port 80 and under ssl port it says 443
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02-Jul-2005, 10:34 PM #10
Locally you have this set up "preferred dns server 192.168.2.113" so apparently you have a DNS server on your LAN which is causing all of your problems. If you are running DNS locally on this server you need to add a host record for www and point it to your web sites IP address, then it will resolve to www.yourdomain.com
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02-Jul-2005, 11:30 PM #11
Rockn,
Where would I find out how to add the host record? I have been hosting my site for a couple of years now and this only happened when I changed my isp. I am wondering what I did to change it. Of course you don't know what I did but I am still curious.
Thank You,
Jerry
Ps when you say point it to my websites ip address are you talking about the servers private ip address or the ip address assigned to me by my isp?
PSS under dnsmgmt under forward look up zones I have
_msdcs.shore-tech.com running active directory-integrated primary
shore-tech.com running active directory-integrated primary
Then I added a new zone after reading your post it is as follows
www.shore-tech.com running active directory-integrated primary
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04-Jul-2005, 10:57 PM #12
I am out of ideas of what to try. Does anyone else have a new idea or somewhere for me to look further?
Thanks,
Jerry
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05-Jul-2005, 09:12 AM #13
Well now after trying numerous things I can't even get to my site typing in the private ip of the server. Is there a website that gives you step by step instructions on configuring sbs 2003 for business card website hosting? When I woke up this morning there was this message sent to me by my server.
Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)

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05-Jul-2005, 09:49 AM #14
If you cannot even get to the web site by IP address there is obviously soemthing else going on besides basic problems. Are you running a firewall anywhere on your network?

You also do not want to add a lookup zone like you just did, all you want to do is add a host entry for www, nothing else just www to look at the address the world sees (public address) or you won't get to it with name resolution internally.

Expand the forward lookup zone and click once on the zone underneath it. On the right hand side right click anywhere and select New Host and enter www in the Name box and the public IP address below that. Delete that other zone you created earlier.
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05-Jul-2005, 10:07 AM #15
The only firewall I am running is the one in sbs 2003 and the one built in to my linksys wrt54g router. Nothing that I have configured on my own. When I run the connect to the internet wizard on the server it configures the firewall. I deleted the host I created and did what you said. I restarted the server and it should be back up by the time this is posted. I am starting to wonder if my isp is lying to me about blocking ports. I have run this server for a couple of years first as sbs 2000 and then in January as sbs 2003 and have had my website up and running fine. I will post back here in a second as to the status.
Thanks,
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