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23-Dec-2013, 09:47 AM #1
Solved: Windows 8.1 and Antivirus
Hi,

Does anyone know if Windows 8.1 has it's own built in antivirus? I read somewhere recently (and now can't remember where I saw it) that Windows 8.1 has a built in antivirus program and that you should not install any on that system yourself.

Is this correct?
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23-Dec-2013, 09:52 AM #2
yes, it has a built in antivirus from Microsoft called windows defender - which is Microsoft Security Essentials for windows 8 and 8.1

often however, manufacturers will put a trial version of a third party security suite on like, norton, mcafee etc

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23-Dec-2013, 10:21 AM #3
Yes, this laptop came with a trail version of Norton, which is why I am confused. Isn't it a bad thing to have two antivirus programs installed? Why would they encourage you to add Norton, or at least make you think you need to install something, if they already have one built in?

I installed Avira when I bought it, and while I have not seen any problems, should I uninstall it?
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23-Dec-2013, 10:26 AM #4
you should only have 1 antivirus actually running - they can be on the PC , but not enabled

windows defender will be turned off and norton will take over , you may get asked to enable and setup norton when you start the PC for the first time

I would use the removal tool for norton, to get rid of that program if not required

how to turn windows defender on/off in windows 8 / 8.1
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
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23-Dec-2013, 11:52 AM #5
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Why would they encourage you to add Norton, or at least make you think you need to install something, if they already have one built in?
Money. I don't know if OEMs get paid for every trial Norton (or other product) installed or only get paid when the customer buys a subscription to the product, but definitely there is financial incentive to install these products. That helps the OEM keep the PC price down and/or profits up.
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23-Dec-2013, 12:35 PM #6
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you should only have 1 antivirus actually running - they can be on the PC , but not enabled

windows defender will be turned off and norton will take over , you may get asked to enable and setup norton when you start the PC for the first time
I had told it no at the time, as I detest Norton
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I would use the removal tool for norton, to get rid of that program if not required
Had already done that so I could install Avira.
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how to turn windows defender on/off in windows 8 / 8.1
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
I'll check and make sure it is off.

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16-Jan-2014, 10:41 AM #7
From what I understand, if you want Windows Defender to protect your computer you have to completely remove Norton (or other 3rd party) and then enable Windows Defender. My new win8.1 computer came with Norton trial pre-installed and I plan to remove it (never liked Norton or Macaffee). Until I decide I'll keep my new machine off-line. On my XP machine- being retired now, I ran MSE along with Superantispyware and Malwarebytes (maybe redundant) Microsoft claims that Windows Defender provides protection against viruses and spyware/malware. Anybody want to recommend an ideal product or combination of products to protect my new computer?
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16-Jan-2014, 12:09 PM #8
Windows Defender in Windows 8 and 8.1 is actually the MSE for earlier versions of Windows. So, cripser, your XP strategy is actually pretty good for 8.1 also.
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16-Jan-2014, 03:59 PM #9
Avast is pretty good - much better than it was years back and it's free (I believe there is a pay for version as well). I have Defender running on my 8.1 computers though. I see you are retiring your XP machine. Just as well since support for XP ends in April and earlier, I believe, for MSE running on XP.
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support for mse on xp has been extended for one year - to april 2015
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XP support ending was the final straw for this machine. I've put up with the broken hinges, wheezing fan, and, always racing HDD. I really didn't think it would last this long! Good to hear that Microsoft extended support for another year since I have another XP machine that I'll continue to use for some software not supported by Win8 and I can't afford to upgrade yet.

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Avast is pretty good - much better than it was years back and it's free (I believe there is a pay for version as well). I have Defender running on my 8.1 computers though. I see you are retiring your XP machine. Just as well since support for XP ends in April and earlier, I believe, for MSE running on XP.
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support for mse on xp has been extended for one year - to april 2015
OK, but new downloads of the software are being stopped as of April 8 of this year. Leave it to Microsoft to keep changing their minds. These dates seem to change by the day.
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