[steppenwolf]

im sick of xp
xp worked ok for months years
but lately whats happened?

i wonder if 98 or 95 would be easier

[Blue Zee]

Would you care to explain in detail?

[Elvandil]

Definitely easier. If you could find an old machine that will run it and you can find drivers for everything. New hardware won't work, so you'll need old printers and things, too.

[SB305]

As far as I'm concerned, 98SE beats the living doo-doo out of XP and Vista Home (which I have on 3 currently working but little-used PC's and 2000 Pro which is on Ghost backups somewhere).
Then again, I don't play games or rip movies from dodgy websites.
In less than a minute from cold, this 98SE rig is up and running and all hard drive activity has stopped. Cloning the drive takes 5 minutes from start to finish. Same for a full virus scan - so any hint of malware gets zapped COMPLETELY in the same time frame. I don't have the patience to time the XP rigs to see if their hard drives ever do stop or try to figure what's going on in all the byzantine processes.
Yes, you'll have a hell of a job finding a NEW motherboard with drivers for 98SE but most other hardware still comes with 98SE drivers (though I have to admit that card readers in particular have jokes just pretending to be 98SE drivers ).
Go retrospective - and good luck!

[steppenwolf]

i have old computers form 3 or 7 years ago and the printer does work with 98 which i bought a year ago

the damn printer wont work with vista
and it makes me angry!!

98 gives blue screens though

xp is on two computers i have -two differnet copies of xp

that silly guy at computing.net would say thats illegal- that jerk!

i have two diferent copies and one seems ok the other bogs down on other

i have windows 95 too

acurally all s in there but moniter etc isnt plugged in

i just wonder if xp is weird or something

it seems worse in last month or two for some reason and or mozilla has gone haywire

[barrierejer]

win98 is way too far a step back, Vista is crap, XP when properly configured, defragged often, cleaned with programs like Cyberscrub Suite, Is still hte best. I find when working on Xp macjines for other's, that Xp will just keep every keystroke and temp file. One needs a good cleaner and defragger.
To check Your system for just what is on there a couple of Free, non malware proggys. CCleaner, security settings to Guutman, and Restoration, which will show you how many thousands of files the program could restore, but if you click top right after running will give You Option to delete all. Clean Comp Fast Running. PS for all thinking of downloading XPsp3 It is the first step in forcing an upgrade to Vista. the Bets Is really Buggy, but then so is Vista.

[steppenwolf]

right now im on windows 95

2 gig drive

266 mhz -it seems to work faster i think

[barrierejer]

In order to run 200 programs and 40 4gig games I have 460 gigs with just a pent 4, but need 2 gig ram to keep it Zapping along. Steppenwolf, ure kidding, right? Is it really time to pull out my Commodore 640k system again....LOL. Early in the new year, the new 45nano chip will begin the change of all comps, Lovin It!!!

[SB305]

Originally Posted by barrierejer

Early in the new year, the new 45nano chip will begin the change of all comps, Lovin It!!!

It still won't run the progs I use any faster than a 2gig Socket A Sempron with 1 gig of RAM on 98SE - and with Vista?
Yeah, right.

[fairnooks]

It almost goes without saying that if one puts any older OS on even a midling modern machine and runs only apps that were designed to run with that OS, that machine is going to be blazing fast in relative terms. Its a pefect solution for niche users where only legacy applications are needed.

45 nano wafers won't change much. Smaller and closer is no longer directly related to speed and performance anymore. It has some benifits but its not like a mass-produced 5 ghz chip is going to come out of it any time soon. Instead, more work done per cycle, more multiple cores, more L2/L3 cache, and more efficently running chips, and maybe a surprise or two will come from 45 nano--all progressive improvemets most likely (one of the surprises could also be detrimental to performace eh) which will only lead to more progressive change just as everything has been fairly progressively changing up to this point.

[barrierejer]

Thx Fairnooks very informative. I don't have a problem with a 2 minite startup, If I shut down Spysweeper, Outpost firewall, and Nod 32, and ethernet, It takes, 37 seconds to complete boot-up.
But I got's the Time, Relax Look out the window and see the world passing by, the vitamin D ure getting more than makes up for Speed...LOL

[steppenwolf]

Originally Posted by barrierejer

Thx Fairnooks very informative. I don't have a problem with a 2 minite startup, If I shut down Spysweeper, Outpost firewall, and Nod 32, and ethernet, It takes, 37 seconds to complete boot-up.
But I got's the Time, Relax Look out the window and see the world passing by, the vitamin D ure getting more than makes up for Speed...LOL

mercola.com site says you need direct sunlight for 30 minutes on think on half the body or you get cancer


houseplants have more sense than us tech fools

[fairnooks]

Or, conversely, and it seems, related to the extremes under discussion here, I spend up to 11 hours a day outside so I have to try to remember to cover up from direct sunlight most of the time or...you get cancer!!

[SB305]

Originally Posted by fairnooks

It almost goes without saying that if one puts any older OS on even a midling modern machine and runs only apps that were designed to run with that OS, that machine is going to be blazing fast in relative terms. Its a pefect solution for niche users where only legacy applications are needed..

Games apart, fairnooks, what would you consider essential applications which cannot run on 98SE AND which deliver a real improvement over, rather than adding unnecessary bells and whistles to, legacy applications?

[fairnooks]

Exactly SB305, about the only difference seperating a lot of legacy apps from what would be considered current apps are just bells and whistles, but that crazy market-hype that I don't begin to understand tells everyone that the latest is the greatest when in reality 60-90% don't need anything more.

To your list of one I would add video and audio processing/creation which I wouldn't even attempt on a 98SE system and there's probably a thing or two more but not much.