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21-Oct-2007, 01:55 PM #76
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Originally Posted by williamrobinsonb
my stock trading platform wont run on it.
and the vista os is not compatible with most of the software that i use to conduct business that worked in xp
You raise a very interesting point which is everything you lose when you move to Vista. The tens of thousands of free or cheap (in price) programs which run under w2k or xp will not necessarily run under Vista.

Besides compatibility problems, you've got the case of Sygate, for example, a better firewall than Microsoft's. It's free to use up to xp. Symantec bought the product and now charges it under Vista. BTW, they made a mess of Peter Norton's products, originally excellent, which they bought years ago. Norton anti-virus is number 10 in the list of the most efficient anti-virus programs after tests were carried out by a consumer organization.

Besides this facility you lose with Vista is the Big Brother program hidden in Vista whose name I've forgotten. Maybe somebody will remind me of it.
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22-Oct-2007, 05:12 PM #77
Dual Boot Vista Win 2000 without a Vista Install DVD
Hi,
Lots of interesting/useful info there but I still don't get how to load win2k onto a vista pre-installed pc, when I haven't got a full vista install dvd, only a recovery disk.
Any help would be HUGELY appreciated.
Thanks!
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22-Oct-2007, 09:08 PM #78
one way is to download the free pc emulator QEMU and install windows to a virtual drive then use the conect to remote desktop to bring up the desktop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ELm9FFj_E

http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
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23-Oct-2007, 10:40 AM #79
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There's a similar installation procedure, with more data, on
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vi...ml#post4844148.

I followed it successfully and, among other things I disabled SATA Native Support in the BIOS.

After everything was over and working fine, I re-enabled it and then, I couldn't boot properly. By going back to the disable status, the dual boot worked fine again.
I have the same situation. To run Vista I have to enable SATA support. When I want to run XP I have to disable it. It is a big nuisance and I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to solve this.
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23-Oct-2007, 11:43 AM #80
Hi Friends,
I hv purchased HP Pavilion dv6558ea. It comes along with windows vista 64 bit.
I want to install windows 2k in this laptop.I have read this thread from begning.
I didn't find any option to Disable SATA native mode in BIOS. and I do not have floppy drive (internal/external). I understand its easy to install win 2k /xp after disabling SATA native mode. But I m stuck before that only.Please guide me.

Thanks in advance....
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23-Oct-2007, 11:52 AM #81
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Hi Friends,
I hv purchased HP Pavilion dv6558ea. It comes along with windows vista 64 bit.
I want to install windows 2k in this laptop.I have read this thread from begning.
I didn't find any option to Disable SATA native mode in BIOS. and I do not have floppy drive (internal/external). I understand its easy to install win 2k /xp after disabling SATA native mode. But I m stuck before that only.Please guide me.

Thanks in advance....
In my Dell machine the setting is called 'SATA Operation' and I have to switch it from 'RAID On' to 'RAID Autodetect/ATA'.
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23-Oct-2007, 07:52 PM #82
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To run Vista I have to enable SATA support. When I want to run XP I have to disable it. It is a big nuisance and I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to solve this.
The solution is to create an XP install disk that contains the SATA driver. This can easily be done with a free program called nLite.
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06-Nov-2007, 12:19 PM #83
I just bought a Acer 5315 laptop with Vist home basic. How can I get all the drivers I will need for a XP install because all I can make is a recovery disc and am not sure XP will find the drivers on the recovery disc ?

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06-Nov-2007, 01:17 PM #84
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I just bought a Acer 5315 laptop with Vist home basic. How can I get all the drivers I will need for a XP install because all I can make is a recovery disc and am not sure XP will find the drivers on the recovery disc ?

Thanks
Go to Acer's web site and look for XP drivers for your laptop.
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08-Nov-2007, 11:49 AM #85
As a complement to sync's suggestions where he mentions the excellent nLite program, there is another solution when you run into the problem of SATA disks. I had cases with an HP Pavilion (dv9580ez) and a Toshiba Satellite P200 where XP would not recognize the disk (s) at xp installation time. I copied the disk controller driver onto a diskette and used it through the F6 procedure. I had an old USB diskette reader which was recognized by both notebooks.

If I remember correctly w2k has the same F6 option and could be installed in the same manner.

At the time, I did not know about nLite which is a very elegant solution as it saves a lot of time when you have to reinstall or when you don't have a diskette reader handy.
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08-Nov-2007, 12:01 PM #86
Re the document which I wrote some time ago on the topic and which is referenced here in message #79, I would like to take the opportunity to mention that you don't need the Vista installation DVD to repair the Boot Loader once the XP installation is completed.

In EasyBCD version 1.7, you click on the Manage Bootloader button, tick "Reinstall the Boot Loader" and press "Write MBR". You then move on to "Add/Remove Entries". I will be updating my document accordingly.
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15-Nov-2007, 05:49 AM #87
Hi,
Its a informative guide about vista installation.But the purpose of vista is not solved.Yes still there is a security loop holes are there!
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16-Dec-2007, 04:35 AM #88
excelent guide ..

i dont have the vista dvd
i can do dual boot with xp, without the dvd?
another form?
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17-Dec-2007, 02:50 PM #89
You don't need the Vista dvd at all to install XP in a dual boot environment. Just read the last few messages in this thread.
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06-Jan-2008, 06:27 PM #90
The vista license agreement:

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10. DOWNGRADE. Instead of using the software, you may use one of the following earlier versions:
· Microsoft Windows XP Professional,
· Microsoft Windows Professional x64 Edition, or
· Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition.
This agreement applies to your use of the earlier versions. If the earlier version includes different components, any terms for those components in the agreement that comes with the earlier version apply to your use of them. Neither the manufacturer or installer, nor Microsoft is obligated to supply earlier versions to you. You must obtain the earlier version separately. At any time, you may replace an earlier version with this version of the software.
Therefore Windows Vista users are legally allowed to downgrade to XP ad no additional cost apart from the media.
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