[mrrb]

neganedeath,

you can't get into the dos area of Vista with "cmd"?

K

[CouchMaster]

Vista is so good than now MS is offering FREE downgrades to XP for Vista users!

[Noyb]

But only if you have Vista Ultimate or Business ..
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005512.html

Unless you have a better link ???

[uhaligani]

Dragging the thread back to negane's problem. What do you mean "I tried using the name administrator " where and when? When you say "I have tried to go through with my win 2000 or my winserver 2003 beta" I am confused (easily done!) what do you mean - to do what?

btw. There is no "DOS" associated with Vista.

I do not have the Home edition loaded, but can any other posters confirm that you cannot open a command prompt in tht edition?

[neganedeath]

Originally Posted by uhaligani

Dragging the thread back to negane's problem. What do you mean "I tried using the name administrator " where and when? When you say "I have tried to go through with my win 2000 or my winserver 2003 beta" I am confused (easily done!) what do you mean - to do what?

btw. There is no "DOS" associated with Vista.

I do not have the Home edition loaded, but can any other posters confirm that you cannot open a command prompt in tht edition?

I am trying to override my system account and gain access to it and so what I was talking about was when I go into my dos and enter "net user administrator /active:yes" ( and yes the string is correct) it just says that the user doesn't exist(which is why im trying that code in the first place) lol. and yes vista HB does have dos and to prove it I have attached a screenshot. I have never heard of a windows without dos because it was based and created on dos 6.22. believe me I know because that what I started on when I was like 10. lol I even remember have a 486 66 dx processor with 32 mb of ram and we thought it was super fast because it was almost as fast as a genuine pentium(lol dont know if any of you remember those days). but anyways what I was talking about is this. if you click this hyperlink http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ..._of_admin.aspx
and then read it he explains 3 methods to override your system account by changing the SAM file and its registry. however he says you must use your windows vista cd and get into its command prompt by going to the recovery options etc etc. However my computer did not come with a windows cd-rom(which is gay and i wish i knew how to obtain the copy so that I can re-format because its impossible to keep a computer running without formatting forever). So therefore I used my windows 2000 installation cd to try to get access to the command prompt and then I also tried my win server 2003 beta cd because it has the option to open up dos 6.22 on it and the option to create a win 98 ramdisk. the reason you must do this outside of windows is because the file is always running so it wont let you change it. However the dos versions I used are incompatible with vista dos(and probably xp) because Windows switched from straight dos to they're version called MS-dos. which are in fact 2 totally different dos programs. And I knew this before I tried but its the only way for me to access dos outside of my computer because I don't have a windows vista cd. any ideas? because im getting stumped. lol. im getting ready to try to downgrade if i can't find a solution. I do not like not having full access to my comp because I do alot of deep admin tasks.

[neganedeath]

haha don't you hate that. its always the simplest thing. I just figured it out. The reason why I was getting that error is because I was in the wrong directory. :P I finally just realized that I had it as "c:\user\cam\ net user administrator active:yes" and so i got the error from being in my own account...duuuh... lol im a dumb ***:P I realized that I i simply type in cd.. and so i was in the user directory it worked. lol so all i had off was this"c:\user\net user administrator active:yes" lol wrong directory. lol so no wonder it wasn't working. I have not logged off yet to try it but I am about to and I will post my conclusion. If any of you can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated since I have been working on it for a long time now. however i think i just got it. lol silly me... a weeks work of different ways and methods and the first one that i tried actually works. lol too funny!

[neganedeath]

hehehe it works and i was able to stop alot of unnecessary services. Now my os is running much smoother because its not hogging so many wasted resources. however thanks for the concern and help all.

[Bob Cerelli]

But is was amusing to look at all that MS bashing going on when it had nothing to do with your problem at all ;-)

[uhaligani]

LOL. fwiw, I believe that the "DOS" at the background of Vista is Ver 8. I guess we could argue for another 4 pages as to wether it is tru dos or just the Shell you are in with a Command prompt.
Oh yes, I can remember 6.22 - not really so long ago. Of course, it came long after drdos and apple, which I started on - LOL

[mrrb]

Now that we have hashed out a few technical difficulties, perhaps we can get back to the topic of the tread.

Should Microsoft be concerned?

Another exploit I just learned is anyone with a microphone and a little tech knowhow can gain access to your computer and start adding and deleting files.

This is through the speech recognition feature.

In fact it came up on my computer and it must use a lot of resourse to load. It frooze my computer for about 15 minutes. The only way I got it to stop was to whip out the trusty task manager.

So now i am really concerned.... Again the question begs answer should M$ be concerned?



K

[starlight64]

Originally Posted by uhaligani

LOL. fwiw, I believe that the "DOS" at the background of Vista is Ver 8. I guess we could argue for another 4 pages as to wether it is tru dos or just the Shell you are in with a Command prompt.
Oh yes, I can remember 6.22 - not really so long ago. Of course, it came long after drdos and apple, which I started on - LOL

I doubt it is true Dos. Way back when I got my last computer I was talking to an HP tech and he told me that My comp/XP didn't actually have DOS. I was like "What are you talking about? I am looking at it right now." He said "It is only a DOS Shell, not true/full DOS. One of the things I was trying to do was run an old DOS based game. It wasn't graphically great but still a fun game that my kids loved. He had to tell me how to get rid of it because it wasn't working right AND it made my Comp unstable. I then went on to tell him that I didn't like not having DOS and maybe I could partition off a section of my HD and install it? He said it would void my warrantee. Why? He claimed that he didn't know why. But I did. For the same reason I didn't like not having it... the main reason... CONTROL OVER MY SYSTEM. I wanted to have control. But they didn't want me to have control. I could however open up the system, add graphics cards, memory, hard drives, ect... But no messing w/ the system settings! What a load of crap! I am not a techie person by far but w/ detailed instructions I can use dos to do things like format, partition, and reload my system. I have done it w/ Win98 more than once!
I suspect I will be back to this thread later because I am getting ready to go in and change a bunch of the settings in services! I thought XP was bad. It has nothing on how bad Vista is! Fun, fun, funnnnnnnnn!
take care,
star****

[SoltoN]

mrrb is a scammer trying to sell free open source software through his vistasgottogo website.

just a heads up

[Bob Cerelli]

"Another exploit I just learned is anyone with a microphone and a little tech knowhow can gain access to your computer and start adding and deleting file"

Really? How for example would someone in a different location do this?

[uhaligani]

Originally Posted by Bob Cerelli

"Another exploit I just learned is anyone with a microphone and a little tech knowhow can gain access to your computer and start adding and deleting file"

Really? How for example would someone in a different location do this?

Yes Bob. I'm intrigued also by that one!!

[Bob Cerelli]

It also may help clarify the intent of the post.