[mrrb]

Experts say there is real reason to be
concerned.

Read about it here...

http://urlfreeze.com/urltrack/VistaNews/

Are you concerned? Do you agree with
the experts?

K

[Peter Komar]

Not concern at all. I ran the betas and now the full program. Very stable and fast. A lot of what you hear about Vista was heard when XP came out.

[uhaligani]

Quote
"It seems a "flaw" in Vista prevents it from operating properly with Linux environments and all outbound pipes from Lund run on Linux." Lundis Energi, the company responsible for keeping the city online, says the problem is purely the result of non-compliant and bad code in Vista and there's no way they're going to work around Microsoft's screw-ups.

Lundis Energi also said that they are in no way willing to change the configuration of their server to cope with the flaw.

Furthermore, there's a good deal of speculation that the "flaw" is actually "on purpose", to make using Linux one step harder for non-technical users and Lundis Energi see no reason to bow to that pressure.

Given 70% of the web is served up on Linux, why should they?" - - -

What a load of BS
Why should Microsoft go to efforts to make there software "compliant" with Linux.
And if 70% of Swiss users are perfectly happy with Linux, why their concern for Windows.

[mrrb]

What a load of BS
Why should Microsoft go to efforts to make there software "compliant" with Linux.
And if 70% of Swiss users are perfectly happy with Linux, why their concern for Windows

My friend, are you digging too deep in the wrong position? The answer is right under your nose?

Microsoft has a product, right? Now why do you think they created the product?

Could it be they are in business, to perhaps, make sales?

enough said

I am out of here.

Cya

K

[Noyb]

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005512.html

[mrrb]

Originally Posted by Noyb

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005512.html

Thanks for that, I had seen it last week but must have deleted it during our research phase.

The worst is those who have the low end machine and can afford the switch the least, are not being helped. They are being jerked around by HP and Microsoft.

That's why we knew we had to become vocal and create our site.

K

[Noyb]

I'm thinking HP, and others, including us are being jerked around by M$

[mrrb]

Noyb,

Jerked around is an understatement. We are are having the wool pulled over our heads.
It's called Policy of control!

Later

K

[neganedeath]

Microsoft is the most greedy, monopolizing, and unfair company i have ever seen in my life. I mean if they're products were actually good from the start then by all means monopolize cause your stuff is good. But its not good anymore it sucks. Microsoft needs to stop thinking of them god damn selves. I mean bill already has all the money anyone could ever want yet he wants to grow and control everyone more and more when it comes to access on a computer. I mean with windows XP I thought it sucked *** so I used a rewriten program call xp peerweb (www.peerweb.org) and it had a new shell and came with .net 2.0 etc along with lots of other handy tools and tweaks. and I still had to sit there for like a week and tweak all my programs and change values in my registry and blah blah blah. But now with windows vista they don't let you do anything. I mean they dont even let you access your system account. So therefore there is an account on your computer which has more access to YOUR files and settings and system which you can't have access to? Thats total BS I mean its your computer. If you know how and want to change very important things on your computer then you should be "aloud" to. I mean you purchased the cd. It belongs to you.You paid over $100 bucks for the stupid thing. Like for example say you needed stop a very important service like group policies or even access it for changing your reserved bandwidth or something small like that to get rid of the big screwups that are already involved in windows. Like why the hell not!!!! This is BS and microsoft should be sued over and over and over again. The only problem is... you can't sue them because they own too god damn much money!!! BS BS BS!!!

[uhaligani]

I think, neganedeath, you should do more research into the accounts system in Vista. There is no "unaccessible" account in Vista, its merely a matter of accessing it. It is no longer automatically the default, rightly or wrongly, because of complaints about security in earlier windows releases. Most experienced (XP or Vista) users, have found by now how to open that accont and use it to their advantage. It is well documented in the Microsoft pages as well as liberally on the web. (And in these pages)
The attack on Bill Gates is unwarranted. Since his early days, when with enthusiasm,he brought an almost miracle into everyones homes, he has not had the ultimate say in where the money goes. In fact, as of recent times, he is not involved very much in Microsofts affairs at all.
His other interests, in the charity area, appear to go unnoticed, overgenerous as they are.

[neganedeath]

Yes I know I have gotten access to it many of times in xp pro. The only question is how to access it for vista home. its not "unaccessible" its just blocked by default. The only question is how to unlock it. I have been trying for about a week now and I am stumped on this one. Its probably easy but I can't figure it out. However I do have more information regarding my problem in my thread labeled "access system account". So please if you know how I can access this let me know. I just need to access my group policies lol. and some guy tried saying that it don't exist in vista home but yet alot of the prgrams that you install on the computer need gp to run. please post if you have an answer anyone.

[neganedeath]

Originally Posted by uhaligani

The attack on Bill Gates is unwarranted. Since his early days, when with enthusiasm,he brought an almost miracle into everyones homes, he has not had the ultimate say in where the money goes. In fact, as of recent times, he is not involved very much in Microsofts affairs at all.
His other interests, in the charity area, appear to go unnoticed, overgenerous as they are.

You have a very good point there btw

[uhaligani]

With their intention of slimming down the two basic Vista versions, for right or wrong reasons, and make it cheaper(?), Microsoft removed group policy, together with several other "under the bonnet" programs.
You can still enable the Administrator account hwever.
1) Click START
2) Type: cmd

Open the command prompt in Vista
Figure 1: Open the command prompt in Vista


3) Right click cmd, click Run As Administrator

Type: net user administrator /active:yes
Figure 2: Type: net user administrator /active:yes


4) Type: net user administrator /active:yes
5) Press enter

Now log off, log on with the new administrator account. Here you go. Full control, even with UAC enabled. It is best to do this right after a clean install because profiles and personal files are difficult to copy or transfer fully to the admin account. After 1st logon, rename the new admin account to whatever you like, if you wish.. If you want a password you can assign one and delete your install account.
In my case, both with 64 and 32 bit, I did it on initial install, so all my programs have been installed under the Administartor account. I take care of my own security with a third party Anti virus and firewall.
All the various policies are still available to you, if you are comfortable with using a registry editor. If you want to see the complete list (its enormous) go here for a PDF download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

[mrrb]

Way to go

This is what is all about.. We need to call what is wrong wrong and why, What is right, right. But what about the question.

Is Microsoft concerned?

Thanks for sharing that info

sorry about the tittle ment UHal...

Was using Vista :-(

[neganedeath]

Originally Posted by uhaligani

With their intention of slimming down the two basic Vista versions, for right or wrong reasons, and make it cheaper(?), Microsoft removed group policy, together with several other "under the bonnet" programs.
You can still enable the Administrator account hwever.
1) Click START
2) Type: cmd

Open the command prompt in Vista
Figure 1: Open the command prompt in Vista


3) Right click cmd, click Run As Administrator

Type: net user administrator /active:yes
Figure 2: Type: net user administrator /active:yes


4) Type: net user administrator /active:yes
5) Press enter

Now log off, log on with the new administrator account. Here you go. Full control, even with UAC enabled. It is best to do this right after a clean install because profiles and personal files are difficult to copy or transfer fully to the admin account. After 1st logon, rename the new admin account to whatever you like, if you wish.. If you want a password you can assign one and delete your install account.
In my case, both with 64 and 32 bit, I did it on initial install, so all my programs have been installed under the Administartor account. I take care of my own security with a third party Anti virus and firewall.
All the various policies are still available to you, if you are comfortable with using a registry editor. If you want to see the complete list (its enormous) go here for a PDF download:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

I thank you for trying but i have tried that already. lol I tried using the name administrator and as system or localsystem /active:... but it just say that the username doesn't exist. I have another method of doing it this way http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ..._of_admin.aspx
however I am suposed to use my windows disc to get into dos however My comp didn't come with a cd, I have tried to go through with my win 2000 or my winserver 2003 beta but they do not support writing into vista's registry. It just says something like cannot place registry key, incorect version(dont remember exaclty) So i need to know how I can access Dos outside of windows. any ideas?