Mumbodog, thanks for the reply. Yes it happens with IE, firefox, thunderbird and almost any internet application except visualroute and a few others that seem to be using basically low level internet access such as ping or traceroute. sometimes I can browse for an hour then will get the condition other times it seems like it takes only 10 minutes. Most of the time I can start a download and it will finish then I can't seem to get anything else. Never seems to occurr in the middle of something. I don't use IE but just thinking back that has not worked in a long time maybe 3 months, I never thought anything about it since I use Firefox mostly.
Chuck