[getownse]

Unfortunately the CPU did not fix the problem. After doing a weeks worth of reseach, I'm pretty sure the problem is with the NVidia drivers. I have tried all new parts except the motherboard. I know the problem could possibly be the motherboard, but I would have to have very good reason to RMA any more things. The computer seems to run golden except when trying to play windowed games in Vista 64 with SLI enabled.

Unless anyone has reason to believe that the Motherboard could be the issue, I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and buy Windows XP 32bit, as it seems to be the most stable for this particular game.

Thanks again for all your help



*************************************************************************** ****
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 124, {0, fffffa800dae4030, be000000, 800400}

Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvlddmkm.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nvlddmkm.sys

WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR (124)
A fatal hardware error has occurred. Parameter 1 identifies the type of error
source that reported the error. Parameter 2 holds the address of the
WHEA_ERROR_RECORD structure that describes the error conditon.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000000, Machine Check Exception
Arg2: fffffa800dae4030, Address of the WHEA_ERROR_RECORD structure.
Arg3: 00000000be000000, High order 32-bits of the MCi_STATUS value.
Arg4: 0000000000800400, Low order 32-bits of the MCi_STATUS value.

Debugging Details:
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BUGCHECK_STR: 0x124_GenuineIntel

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VERIFIER_ENABLED_VISTA_MINIDUMP

PROCESS_NAME: WAR.exe

CURRENT_IRQL: f

STACK_TEXT:
fffff800`02fbdc18 fffff800`0213272a : 00000000`00000124 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0dae4030 00000000`be000000 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff800`02fbdc20 fffff800`01d363c3 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000001 : hal!HalBugCheckSystem+0x12e
fffff800`02fbdc90 fffff800`02132097 : fffff800`00000c3e fffff800`02fbde70 fffff800`02fbdef0 00000000`00000000 : nt!WheaReportHwError+0x243
fffff800`02fbdcf0 fffff800`01c675b1 : 00000000`00000000 fffff800`02fbdef0 fffff980`036e03f0 00000000`00000000 : hal!HalpMcaExceptionHandler+0xf3
fffff800`02fbdd30 fffff800`01c673f5 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KxMcheckAbort+0x71
fffff800`02fbde70 fffffa60`02b423be : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiMcheckAbort+0xf5
fffffa60`0e2f7138 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nvlddmkm+0x1413be


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: hardware

IMAGE_NAME: hardware

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x124_GenuineIntel_VRF__UNKNOWN

BUCKET_ID: X64_0x124_GenuineIntel_VRF__UNKNOWN

Followup: MachineOwner

[rainforest123]

g:
OUCH!

Do you have a spare HDD? If so, install Vista and some other video card; integrated graphics chip if 1 is on your motherboard.

OR install some version of Linux, if compatible with your games.

Did you replace the CPU?
If so, unlikely but possible: a bad batch of CPUs. I had a PC with bad power supply. I went through 5 brand spanking new [ no, I do not abuse children ] power supplies before I encountered one that worked.

You might want to click on "report" and ask the moderator to move your thread to the hardware sub forum.

Keep us posted.

If your thread moves to another forum, RR & I [ pls anyone one else who is subscribed to this thread ] will be able to follow along.

RF123

[Bobthequill]

Hi Guys

I am a newby here. This is my first post. My system is nuthin like the superwhizzbang you're discussing but, I did experience erratic BSOD last year when I installed a new Modem with a wireless port for my home LAN.

Turned out the modem setup instructions for a Vista application were incorrect and caused an IRQ conflict. This would run a few minutes or maybe an hour then a BSOD. Never did find out what the conflict was with.

My solution was to reinstall the modem and let it find its own setup, Was only a cheapy Belkin but who knows? I note no reference to the modem set up above and it is a brand new system.

Just a thought?

Bobthequill

[rainforest123]

BtQ:
Hello & welcome to TGF.

Thanks for providing your suggesting.


I hope it solves g's problem.

RF123

[Bobthequill]

Ayup RF 123

Fish, fish makes no difference.

Is that right? The number of posts you have made on here? 4,318?

Do you do anything else between posts ?

Or, has it just been a long time?

Is there a PM system on this forum?

Bobthequill

[Cookiegal]

Originally Posted by Bobthequill

Ayup RF 123

Fish, fish makes no difference.

Is that right? The number of posts you have made on here? 4,318?

Do you do anything else between posts ?

Or, has it just been a long time?

Is there a PM system on this forum?

Bobthequill

Now that can be taken as an insult to another member. I certainly hope it wasn't intended that way. Would you care to explain?

[Bobthequill]

Sorry RF123

No insult intended, I meant giving fish or fishing makes no difference these days, as there are not that many fish left in the sea.

I was interested in your large number of posts. I will assume it has been a long time .

Best Regards

Bobthequill

[Cookiegal]

Originally Posted by Bobthequill

Sorry RF123

No insult intended, I meant giving fish or fishing makes no difference these days, as there are not that many fish left in the sea.

I was interested in your large number of posts. I will assume it has been a long time .

Best Regards

Bobthequill

Thanks for the clarification and the apology.

[rainforest123]

b t q:
Thanks for the clarification & apology.


RF123

[OOOOOO8]

Your system is not viable.

Clearly Vista 64bit, the game and the hardware (and the drivers) you have just don't fit together! It may look like the Ultimate system, but if it does not work...


The problem with state of the art components and systems is that they don't know about each other well enough for problems to have been ironed out. Tried and tested combinations of hardware and software tend to work!

WRT your specific problem there is clearly an operating system / game conflict. The game code is trying to do something with the hardware and the OS is failing to do it.

It is typical of Lazy programmers to write in 32bit rather than the more stable 64bit, and then to blame Microsoft for not translating/facilitating their rubbish code into a functioning usable game.

Unfortunately you made the mistake of trying to get the best hardware available, combining it with the best software and hoping to get the best performance when running a game (with its dodgy code).

What you should have done is get a Well Known stable architecture, pop in the best video cards (the ONLY thing that improves gaming performance), use a 32bit platform, and enjoy.

If you used a Q6600, or a E6800 CPU, on an Asus P5K or P5Q Motherboard (or similar) it would never run at 100% playing a game. Using 2 good SLI cards, 32bit XP Pro (after removing all the unnecessary add-ons, start-up processes...), 3 or 4GB RAM (even 800MHz wont make it significantly slower, but 1066, 1200 is available for DDR2 and is cheaper than DDR3); the on-line performance would match your system (if it did work), because the graphics cards are the only things that matters for gaming performance.

I suggest you get another Hard drive and put on a 32bit version of XP Pro, install all the latest drives (which will be different than the 64bit versions), install the game and have a go with your existing hardware (minus the Vista HDD). Should this not work, check your Bios settings WRT graphics.

Perhaps next year there will be better drivers for 64bit Vista to allow your hardware to function normally and the game might even have a patch!

[getownse]

Thanks for your post 008.

It is indeed a conflict with Vista 64, Nvidia Drivers (SLI) and specifically Warhammer. I have since disabled TriSli and run a single 285. I have no crashes now.

It sucks I can't use my TriSli with Warhammer, but it runs great with all the modern 3D games. And my computer is plenty to run Warhammer all the time at 60+ FPS.

The computer is amazing for encoding/decoding video and my work with 3D Studio max. I agree with you on video games, that it is more important to have a stable system with a souped up Video card. But I do a lot of 3D work and cad work, so the RAM (>4 gig) is essential.

The CPU is just icing, and I notice the CPU improves games such as MMOs. After reading numerous boards, MMOs are just not made to work with multiple GPUs and, in most cases, multiple CPUs. The nature of the game genre is stability.

A lesson to others, make sure you read up on your games. People are having a very hard time with GeForce 295s right now playing games such as WoW and Warhammer, because of the internal Sli and Sli support with these games using a 64 bit OS.

I'm glad I went with the 3x 285's instead, so I can run these games with a strong single core GPU by disabling tri sli.

Thanks again for all your help on this board.

[OOOOOO8]

Your system makes sense now! I thought it was too good just to play games. It is some system, and I am sure its great with encoding.

[rainforest123]

g:
In #13 of this thread, you noted: "This is the only erorr I am getting now, and it is very easy to reproduce with both the video game, and also OCCT.".

Have you tested the other game?

Any problems running CAD?

I am not questioning your analysis. I am curious to know if your system has achieved the stability you desire.

RF123

[getownse]

I only get the error if I run 3xSLI or 2xSLI using OCCT and Warhammer. I do not get the error running 3xSLI with Call of Duty, Far Cry 2 or any of my design software.

I can still reproduce the error if I use 2x SLI or 3x SLI with both Warhammer and OCCT.

I have not crashed once running a single card with Warhammer.

The issue seems to happen much quicker if I play Warhammer in windowed modes (minutes as apposed to almost an hour in full screen)

I'm pretty sure it has to do with NVidia/Vista64 drivers I'm hoping the issue magically goes away in a few months and a few patches

[rainforest123]

g:
I agree with your analysis , and share your hopes.

RF123