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12-Mar-2005, 12:18 AM #1
Fresh Install Problem. (Swap File)
I've tried the 6 boot disk method, I've formatted my HD completely numerous times, and I'm still led to the same "Could not find a place for a swap file" error every time I run i386/winnt.exe.

I'm so lost. None of the solution's I've read have worked.
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12-Mar-2005, 12:22 AM #2
OK. What exactly are you doing? If you are using the 6 floppies from Microsoft, you should not even have the opportunity to run winnt. That starts a DOS installation of XP---not normally used.

Do you have the CD in the tray? What happens when you insert the 6th floppy?

Can you boot from the XP CD?
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12-Mar-2005, 05:01 PM #3
Well, I've already tried the 6 floppy method. It was a pain because I only have one floppy, so I had to load it, use it, and then format it six times.

It doesn't boot from the Cd, it needs the drivers. The floppy I'm using automatically boots the drivers, and when I run winnt.exe, I get the swap file error.
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12-Mar-2005, 05:06 PM #4
Will you give the hardware specs and the age of the computer. Is this a full XP Home/Professional CD?

Have you tried altering the boot sequence so that you can boot to the CD directly?

You don't really need the six bootdisks a '98 bootdisk will do. Choose with CD-ROM support, change to the CD and then go for Winnt.exe

Or make a folder on the freshly formatted drive and copy it all to the folder and run winnt.exe from there.

What is on the drive now, how big is it, and is it partitioned?
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12-Mar-2005, 11:06 PM #5
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The floppy I'm using automatically boots the drivers, and when I run winnt.exe,
And one more question: What floppy is this? Is this a standard startup floppy or one that came with the machine that may have special drivers?
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12-Mar-2005, 11:25 PM #6
How are you partitioning and formatting the drive?

Do you have any kind of Raid controller?

What drivers need loading before you can boot with the XP CD - "It doesn't boot from the Cd, it needs the drivers. "

Saw one post on the Internet to run smartdrv before starting the install.
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12-Mar-2005, 11:36 PM #7
That's interesting, whenever I try to run Smartdrv, it freezes. Also, wehn I run mem, I have no reserved or upper memory. Could it be a memory problem? It said something about it when I tried the 6 floppy method.
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12-Mar-2005, 11:38 PM #8
Can you give the details to - "It said something about it when I tried the 6 floppy method"

Also, any more information regarding the drives you need to boot to the XP CD.
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12-Mar-2005, 11:39 PM #9
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That's interesting, whenever I try to run Smartdrv, it freezes. Also, wehn I run mem, I have no reserved or upper memory. Could it be a memory problem? It said something about it when I tried the 6 floppy method.
What was the message you received when you tried the 6 floppies?

Try a memory test:

www.memtest86.com
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12-Mar-2005, 11:39 PM #10
No, this PC's home built, so no floppies came with it.


I don't see anything that would concern this other than the cpu, memory, or hard disk, so:
Pentium 3 866 mhz
256MB SD-ram
80 GB IDE ATA 100/133 HD
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12-Mar-2005, 11:43 PM #11
Just as a test, what happens if you do something like:

1. Boot with a floppy that will allow you access to your CD ROM drive
2. FDISK and create something like a 10 gig partition on your hard drive
3. Format the drive
4. XCOPY the XP source files to a directory on that drive
5. Start the install from there.

I have a generic boot disk which you can download and extract at:
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/win98_img.exe

There are a lot of the DOS utilities there that don't normally get added when you make one from Win98. For example Diskcopy, Doskey, Format, More, Move, Sys, Edit, Chkdsk, Deltree, Extract, Updated Fdisk, Attrib, Label, Mem, Scandisk, Scanreg, Smartdrv and Xcopy.

Not only are there more utilities on there but it starts much faster since it doesn't have to create the RAM disk and then expand the cab file from the floppy to that RAM disk.

It automatically loads with support for a generic CD ROM and assigns it the drive letter of X:

There is also a CD ROM boot image you can download at:
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/win_boot.iso

In addition to all the other DOS utilities, the CD version also has:
DELPART - For deleting DOS and NTFS partitions. Can delete extended NTFS partitions.
FDISK121 - FDISK with additional options - See the documentation, and
READNTFS - Read and Copy files on a NTFS partition.

The CD image needs to be burned using a program that recognized ISO images.
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12-Mar-2005, 11:48 PM #12
Let us know how you make out on the memory test.

Has this machine had an operating system on it before (Linux, perhaps)?

Do you know exactly what motherboard you have?
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13-Mar-2005, 12:53 AM #13
Since "It was a pain because I only have one floppy", just to save you time in the future, if you can't get your XP CD to boot, might want to pick up a couple more ;-)

Glad the idea of running smartdrv and yours of running the mem test may be getting you on the right track. But it still seems like there is something more going on.
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14-Mar-2005, 08:33 PM #14
More problems with the solutions.

Smartdrv lags. So I tried Memtest, which when burned to a CD, leaves no usable files.


And It's an old Asus TUSL board.

Um, I never tried using Xcopy. What files exactly, or what dos commands should I use?

Thank you guys, you're a real help.
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14-Mar-2005, 08:38 PM #15
So you are ok with partitioning, formatting the drive and creating a directory on the drive.

Then to use XCOPY from that floppy disk, it would be something like:

XCOPY X:\i386 c:\i386 /s

Where X: is the actual drive letter assigned to the CD ROM
I386 is actual the source location for the XP files on the CD ROM
and C:\i386 would be the directory you created.
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