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27-Feb-2009, 07:56 PM #1
Question Computer has choice of safe mode, Start windows normaly and any of them do not work.
Hello. This is my first post.
One day I was using my computer and a windows update notification popped up saying windows has updated what would you like to do and yo have 4 minutes until the computer will restart. I said restart later. Then I went away from my pc and it restarted because that popped up while I was away and I was away for more than 4 minutes. It restarted and now I have this menu that says windows has dected a problem with software or hardware what would you like to do. I first selected start windows normal The computer restarted and I did not see any of the windows boot screen. I chose safe mode It also restarted as well. I brought the pc as a HP pavillion but I upgraded the mother board, cpu and case so the recovery cd is useless and I also don't want to reinstall windows becasue I will lose lots of data and I have lost all of my backup dvd's. I have also found a windows xp cd but it is already installed on one pc. could I do this change the product key when it asks for it to the product key, I do not want to breach the Microsoft eula.
I think the only way to fix it is to boot to a linux live cd and send all my data by ftp to another pc on my home network but that might take a long time to send gigabytes of data over a 54 mbps wifi network. Then reinstall windows useing if I can somehow. I do not want to have to buy another windows xp cd.
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27-Feb-2009, 11:35 PM #2
Hi,

You didn't upgrade the HP, you built a new pc

It sounds like you put the hard drive from the HP into the new system and booted up, is that correct?

Or, am I totally wrong, and was a new copy of XP installed?

You changed the case, the CPU, and the motherboard, is that right?
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28-Feb-2009, 12:13 AM #3
I did this to my pc.
I got a new motherboard. It's in my pc specs new CPU (Also in my pc specs) I did this a year ago. I have just recovered from a Winsock key corruption. Before this problem occored the pc asked to restart the pc. I went away it popped up again and with this one you only have 4 minutes to answer yes or no or else it will restart. It restarted but I get that menu and it keeps on restarting on boot.
One thing for sure i'm never buyinhg a brand name pc again. I also think it's cheaper to go to my local pc store.
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28-Feb-2009, 12:20 AM #4
Hi, Let's try again!

Did you use the same hard disk that was running in the old HP computer, and just put it into the new case, with the new motherboard and CPU, and expect it to just run?

Just answer that question for me please. I understand the other stuff about Updates, what happened recently....

What I want to know, is if you formatted the hard drive back when you got the new motherboard and did you install a fresh new Windows XP then, on the same hard disk, or perhaps did you also get a new hard disk drive?
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28-Feb-2009, 12:22 AM #5
I just got the hdd and dvd drive and put it in the new case with the new mobo and cpu and connected it useing sata.
Also is linux able to read NTFS formatted drives?
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28-Feb-2009, 12:30 AM #6
Hi,

GParted Live can work with NTFS partitions.....http://www.linux.com/feature/53924 if you mean to copy data off one drive to another, yes I think that will work

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GParted handles Ext2, Ext3, FAT16, FAT32, JFS, ReiserFS, Reiser4, NTFS, XFS, and other filesystem formats. At a bare minimum, GParted can detect, read, copy, and create partitions using those file systems -- and, in some cases, can shrink, expand, and move partitions. See the features page on the GParted site for the full rundown on GParted's capabilities.


You could use any computer to simply move files from your old drive, one running XP or higher work work easiest. You install the old drive as a Slave so it doesn't try to boot....

Basic rule with XP> You cannot stick other drives in a system that is running XP and try booting from the transplant drive....

You can multi-boot, but it has to be done the right way.

XP has hardware check at each startup and you can mess up the boot by having a "strange" drive that also has XP that is trying to boot in a new environment....
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28-Feb-2009, 12:40 AM #7
I was thinking of doing this.
Booting to a Linux live CD and then transfusing my data to a personal local network ftp server. Could the Ubuntu live CD copy my data to my personal ftp server or damm small linux? Or is there a way faster than ftp to transfur my data along a local network?
Is it possible to under the MS EULA to use a cd I have alredy got and use my product key licenced to my pc? I know the HP recovery cd will not work with my pc. I do not want to pay an extra 125$A for software that I have already got installed. Also is Vista cheaper than Windows XP?
The transplant drive has been working for 1 year now!
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28-Feb-2009, 01:01 AM #8
Hi,

I am fairly sure that you can use some form of Linux to do what you want, that is, copy data, but I am not exactly certain about the networking.....

A direct drive to move the data to, would be my choice. Either a removable hard drive, or put data on CD or other media.

I normally do that by installing the drive as a Slave in a working computer.

You have already somewhat bypassed the MS Eula

The copy of XP that came with the HP is OEM and is either HOme edition or Professional....so, if you were installling a copy of plain Microsoft XP Home or Pro, and matching the Product Key on the label of the case, onto that same HP computer......and it worked, you woudl be OK.

However, you are trying to run an already used License of an OEM branded computer on a totally new system which is not allowed. OEM License is for that one computer that it was FIRST installed on. Installing a new motherboard and CPU is creating a new system, and you must obtain a new XP License....heck, we could all just throw away our branded systems and install XP with those Product Keys if it was acceptable.....

Only the Retail versions of XP are transferable to a new computer (and you can run the License on only one computer irregardless.....it just will not be activated on the second....)

Here in the US, I do see some types of Vista that are cheaper than XP.............there are several varieties of Vista.


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