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Discussion in 'Networking' started by CaesarTheHun, Nov 4, 2007.

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  1. CaesarTheHun

    CaesarTheHun Thread Starter

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    Hi Guys,

    I would like to set up my computers in Home network. But it plays tricks on me and can not solve it by myself. I need smarter guys then I am. :)
    Situation: IP s are set to static :
    Router : Linksys WRT-54G

    Local IP : 192.168.1.101
    Model : Sony VGC-RB40 wired desktop
    OS : Windwos XP Pro SP2

    Local IP : 192.168.1.102
    Model : Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100 wired laptop
    OS : Windwos XP Pro SP2

    Local IP : 192.168.1.103
    Model : HP dv1000 wireless laptop
    OS : Windwos Vista Ultimate

    I use the same Agnitum Outpost Firewall as a part of the security suit on all three of them and NOD32 antivirus system.


    Let's see. I set up a Workgorup what called CAESAR HOME with multiple problems.
    192.168.1.101 should be the main computer with the USB hooked printers scanners and so on. All there computer has shared folders.

    From 192.168.1.101 Sony wired desktop XP Pro SP2

    My Network places-> View Workgroup Computers -> Caesar Home -> Sony
    When I check the workgroup computers ..... I have no icon at all for 192.168.1.101 ...but from there I can see the ....102 , 103 and I have access to them as well.
    - I have full access to Toshiba ..1.102. I can do every kind of folder action I want like copy, rename, move and so on back and forth between these computers. This would be the normal behavior I wish.:)
    - I have restricted access to HP ....1.103. I can get in the folder rename, move from but I'm not able to put file back to that folder... Got and error message :
    Error Copying File of Folder Cannot copy File_name : Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is not currently in use.

    From 192.168.1.102 Toshiba wired laptop XP Pro SP2

    My Network places-> View Workgroup Computers -> Caesar Home -> Toshiba
    I can see the Toshiba icon and the HP .... no SONY!!!! -> No access
    Same situation just like the above described...Whatever I want to do ....no rename,no any file of folder action. Same error mesage :
    Error Copying File of Folder Cannot copy File_name : Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is not currently in use.

    From 192.168.1.103 HP Wiereless Laptop Vista Ultimate

    My Network places-> View Workgroup Computers -> Caesar Home -> Sony
    Pretty much the same. No Sony icon visible between workgroup computers. and so on

    I've been serching for anykind of solution for days with no success. If anyone have any idea...please let me know.
    Thanks
    Caesar
     
  2. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    Turn off any firewalls for debugging. If the firewall is the problem, you'll have to configure it to allow access to "trusted zone" addresses. Note that some firewalls must be completely uninstalled to stop them from affecting your networking.

    Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt for the following commands.

    PING each remote computer by IP address, and if successful, PING by name. Open a command prompt as described above and type.

    PING <ip address>
    or
    PING <computer name>

    Where:
    <ip address> - is the x.x.x.x IP address
    <computer name> - is the computer name

    A failure to PING is almost always a firewall configuration issue. Any failure to PING needs to be corrected before you go any farther.

    Note: You can obtain the IP address and computer name of a computer by opening a command prompt (DOS window) and typing IPCONFIG /ALL. This should work for any Windows version. The IPCONFIG /ALL display will provide a wealth of useful information for debugging your network connection.

    Check your Services are Started on all PCs:
    • Computer Browser
    • DHCP Client
    • DNS Client
    • Network Location Awareness
    • Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
    • Server
    • TCP/IP Netbios helper
    • Workstation

    Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

    All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic.

    All computers should be in the same workgroup for computer browsing to function properly. File & Print Sharing has to be enabled on any computer you wish to share files or printers from. You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.

    If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Neighborhood, make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login.

    While the default NetBIOS setting is correct for normal network configurations, it's possible for it to be altered, and it costs nothing to make sure it's correct. NETBIOS over TCP/IP must be enabled for normal network browsing.
     
  3. CaesarTheHun

    CaesarTheHun Thread Starter

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    Hi John Will,
    I congifured my firewall as you mentioned.
    I made the pings with 100 % success from all three direction. 0% loss, average = 0-1ms
    Back and forth by and by ip address as well.
    I checked my all services were listed above on all Pcs:
    * Computer Browser
    * DHCP Client
    * DNS Client
    * Network Location Awareness
    * Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
    * Server
    * TCP/IP Netbios helper
    * Workstation
    They all started at the type is automatic now.

    All computers are on the same network ..... but sony has still not any icon SONY is still invisible in workgroup.
    File and print sharing is enabled
    BIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all three of them

    BUT I dont know how to do these :
    "You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.

    If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Neighborhood, make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login."

    Thanks
    Caesar
     
  4. CaesarTheHun

    CaesarTheHun Thread Starter

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    I found a help link:
    http://www.aultcomputer.com/setnetwork.htm
    and followed all the way.... shared drives,folders mapped and Reconnect on logon is enabled or ticked.

    Regardless I have no idea where the problem is. Sony is still not visible on workgroup.

    Thanks for helping me out

    Caesar
     
  5. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    On the Sony, please do this:

    Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt:

    Type the following two commands:

    nbtstat -n

    ipconfig /all

    Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
    Paste the results in a message here.

    If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.
     
  6. CaesarTheHun

    CaesarTheHun Thread Starter

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    Here we go!

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>nbtstat -n

    Local Area Connection:
    Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.101] Scope Id: []

    NetBIOS Local Name Table

    Name Type Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    SONY <00> UNIQUE Registered
    CAESAR HOME <00> GROUP Registered
    SONY <20> UNIQUE Registered
    CAESAR HOME <1E> GROUP Registered

    C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SONY
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
    on
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-20-45-25-D5
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

    C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>
     
  7. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    What happens if you open Network Places on the Sony? Can you see it's name there? Do you see the other computer names there?
     
  8. CaesarTheHun

    CaesarTheHun Thread Starter

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    I'm at the Sony now. 192.168.1.101

    My Network Places-> Click on View Workgroup computers-> NO SONY icon!!!!!!

    I can see both computer the Toshiba and the HP as well.
    I can access both of them Fully. It means I can do what ever I want in the shared folders.Move ,delete, rename, copy and so on.
    I can move the files to Sony and back as well.. regardless I have no sony icon on workgroup computers.
     
  9. CaesarTheHun

    CaesarTheHun Thread Starter

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    Any one with any idea what causes this mystery?
    Any help would be highly appreciated
    Thanks
    Caesar
     
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