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8.1 Forever !

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  1. AntoniaNewbie

    AntoniaNewbie Thread Starter

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    I've been using Windows 10 now for a few days and I gotta say I think Windows 8.1 is much better, I just built my first computer with Windows 10 and while it completes tasks perfectly well and about 40% faster, I still think the navigation around the system is slower than 8.1 ... I was told 81 processes running was normal, and over 20 background processes It does not seem to be using much CPU which is great but I guess I can't monitor that all of the time.

    I tried to run some software on there, had some issues but I worked with it, it just made me me think wow yeah even though 8.1 uses more CPU it still ran that software much more smoothly, even after I uninstalled everything I didn't need from Windows 10, I've also done that with 8.1, I hate that I can't remove all that XBOX stuff and those things I just wont ever use.

    So ... even though I have a few issues with my 8.1 right now I can't help but love this old computer more than my new build ( Windows 10 ) ... My Windows 8.1 Machine is a Dell optiplex and it's officially at least 10 years old, I'm sad at the thought that maybe this wont be around much longer, I have downloaded a bunch of my old software's to the new computer and the updated versions just don't work for me, I mean with changed settings, things like that, visual changes also ... That's why I never update them on Windows 8.1, everything is perfect, I don't like the changes made and I don't think there is anything wrong with me not wanting to move on, well I am moving on but I'd like to know if there is anything I can do to this old machine or Windows 8.1 to make its life a little longer ? obviously a new build means I'll be using this one less, so I'm thinking of removing every single thing from the system that I 100% just don't need, making things like scans and disk cleans run a lot faster ... My disk cleaner has been acting up lately ... it gets up to cleaning temporary files and then just stops moving, it used to fly by in a matter of minutes haha ( I know Windows 10 does it in seconds :p ) is there anything I can do to help this problem ?

    All I'd be using 8.1 for from now on would be, Internet use, downloading, possibly uploading, only really storing my Music collection( CD rips ) and recording software, not updated ... because it works perfectly well and using Windows 10 makes me feel nostalgic haha .

    When I turn on my computer, I have to type in a password, because a while ago I had accidentally downloaded one drive which came with a zip or RAR extractor, can't remember now and I can't get rid off the thing ! that's the main Issue for me, I used to be able to load my computer up in about 15 seconds, now with a password and one drive starting up it takes about 1 minute ( not the worst, but it's not 15 seconds :( ) ... I open Task and end the process of one drive and anything else I know I don't need, My background processes never seem to hit past 18 tops and at the minimum 7, unlike windows 10 never dropping below 24, my backgrounds never hit above 24 unlike Windows 10 hitting 81 and seemingly never dropping ...

    Once I close one drive it opens again and again and starts running even though I never use the thing and I'm always ending the process GO AWAY ONE DRIVE ! my 8.1 was perfect before you came along :( I went through the registry key thing ( Don't really know what I'm doing ) and I could not work out how to remove one drive from there ... secondly The software's I used the extractor for ( The whole reason why One drive moved in ) are to important to me ( refusing to update them ) to risk clicking sign out and then attempting to remove One drive only to find out it took those extracted files with it ! can that happen ??

    I'm also going to blame One drive for my disk cleaner Issue, I don't remember a system file clean up taking over 2 hours before, same with Defrag, same with scans ... if someone tells me I can remove one drive and keep all my files I'll be amazed !

    First thing I uninstalled on Windows 10 was One drive ... why is it still there ??

    Anyway I guess I am mainly looking for help with that Issue and also if you guys can let me know what not to remove in order to keep using my 8.1 for my needs, I am hoping to be able to remove 1000's of files and folders haha already removed so much stuff, the things I knew were safe to remove.

    Maybe there is a way to transfer software to another computer ?? right now All I know how to do is move the installer, but they install the latest updates :( cloning ?? that seems difficult :eek:
     
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  3. Grey03

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    Can you please specify what's your concern ?
     
  4. AntoniaNewbie

    AntoniaNewbie Thread Starter

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    :eek: What Can I do to extend the life of my 10 year old computer ?

    what's safe to remove in 8.1, I'd like everything gone but the things enable me to use the web, download, upload, record, audio, CD rip and that's all I need it for !

    :( I want One Drive gone from my 8.1 and Windows 10 if it's possible ( Xbox also , 10 only )

    What happened to disk clean up, and did one drive affect my defrag and windows defender scans ?

    is there anything I can do to this system ( along with using it less ) that would ensure a few more years out of it, since it's working almost perfectly well for now ...

    Is there anything I can do to speed my start up back up :( ?

    What processes are safe to end or even remove ?

    Possible software transferring ? transferring older none updated versions of them onto windows 10 ? ( without windows 10 installing the updates )

    HDD copy some how ?
     
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    Only slightly off topic: have you considered looking for a (newer) refurbished PC with Windows 8.1?
     
  6. HyperHenry

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    You can revert back to 8.1 from within Windows.
     
  7. AntoniaNewbie

    AntoniaNewbie Thread Starter

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    Well No Terry, I blew all the money I had on my new build, is it impossible to remove one drive ?

    System restore didn't really work for me, I don't mess with that anymore.
     
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    You can install both OS in one hard drive. Install Windows 10 and after completing the installation partition your hard drive and you can then install Windows 8.1 too (or vice versa). Make sure your hard drive is greater than 500 GB's for best results. Have another HDD as a backup to store all your documents in there.
     
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    I keep an eye out for inexpensive hardware.
    Not much out 'there' with 8.1, but Newegg seems to offer up a lot of Win 7 refurbs and sometimes new old stock Win7 pro machines.
    I picked up a new Acer i5 with Win7 pro just for the hardware, several months ago. Immediately disconnected the hard drive and now run Puppy from a DVD. Cheaper than building a comparable custom rig, already sorted and came with a warranty.

    I'm not much of a fan of 8 or 8.1.
    Still using Win 7 offline in my home office and see no reason to change.
    Amazing how trouble free Windows runs that never encounters the Internet :D :D
     
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    Johnny-be-Good John

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    Some times a reinstall of the OS is the easiest/most efficient way to refresh an old computer that's seen years dealing with the Internet and all the nasties it's encountered.

    Realistically, EOL defines how long 'forever' lasts when using the Internet.
    At least safely. ;)

    And there's always Linux as an option on an old computer.
     
  11. AntoniaNewbie

    AntoniaNewbie Thread Starter

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    Well John, that would mean me losing my software, plus I actually don't own a copy of windows 8 ... The computer was free, so was the HDD which just had 8.1 on there, even if I had the disc I'd still be losing my software :(

    I can't stand Linux haha its fine but eh ... Not for me.

    8.1 is the best I've seen so far.
     
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    Texas its a 500 GB, but again I'd be losing my software unless I can work out how to copy that stuff some how.
     
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    Does the computer has a legit OS.
    What is the make and model number of your computer including the serial number or service tag number.
     
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    Johnny-be-Good John

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    Sounds like a bad situation if you don't have the install disc or the factory partition, to reinstall Windows and even worse that you don't own licenses for the added software installed on it.

    You could try buying a legal 8.1 . Should be cheap as it's not considered desirable by many users. Not popular. Stats show fewer 8.1 users than even Win XP.
    Then go open source with needed apps. Doesn't look like you use anything unusual.

    But remember.....if you hack what you now have and it doesn't work out, you are stuck with a broken system since you don't use the restore function, maybe even bricked if you mess with something like the registry.


    Then Linux looks like a really good deal :D
     
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    Please open an Elevated Command Prompt window (on the Start screen, type "Command" - a Command Prompt icon will appear, right-click on it and select Run as Administrator) then at the prompt, type the following (be sure to include the spaces):

    Licensingdiag.exe -report %userprofile%\desktop\report.txt -log %userprofile%\desktop\repfiles.cab

    After running the command, two files will appear on your desktop, report.txt and repfiles.cab. Please open the report.txt file in Notepad and copy and paste the contents here. The repfiles.cab is only a backup file and can be ignored for the time being.
     
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    Also, please just use the default font rather than using excessive formatting (bold and italic text) every time you post as it actually makes it more difficult to read and is not needed in the technical threads other than to highlight a point. Thanks.
     
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