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98se update (823559)

Discussion in 'Earlier Versions of Windows' started by moonrocket, Oct 20, 2003.

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  1. moonrocket

    moonrocket Thread Starter

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    Hi, I've read other posts, and it seems that this update is not necessary for my os, yet it still keeps coming up as a critical update.
    As you can see, it's successfully installed loads of times, yet still every few days, the notification comes up that there's an update...we go through all the processes of checking what the downloads are....only to see 823559 listed once again.
    I tried removing it from the list via the personalise function, but still I am notified that I need it. How can I permanently remove it from the list?


    Successful 29 September 2003 823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows Web site
    Successful 28 September 2003 823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows Web site
    Successful 26 September 2003 823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows Web site
    Successful 22 September 2003 823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows Web site
    Successful 21 September 2003 823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows Web site
    Successful 16 September 2003 823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows Web site
    Successful 11 July 2003 823559: Security Update for Microsoft Windows Web site
     
  2. e-liam

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    Hi moonrocket,

    I don't know if you saw my answer to someone else late last week, but it's called looping; and loading in safe mode should (for some reason) stop it from getting called each time you scan..

    Cheers

    Liam
     
  3. bozz

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    I'm seeing the same thing here. I've even tried to uninstall it but get this error message:

    Error: Could not locate INF file 'C:\WINDOWS\INF\QFE\W98.SE\823559UN.INF'.
     
  4. lotuseclat79

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    I too have experienced similar problems with the MS Update site.
    Here is a description of my problem and how I resolved it:

    The problem I was having was that MS Update kept on indicating that
    Security Update 823559 needed to be installed. Even after successfully
    installing, a revisit immediately after installing indicated it
    needed to be installed. I suspected that whatever did get installed
    needed to be totally uninstalled and then the update could be
    installed properly, however, there was no indication that the update
    was installed via the Add/Remove Programs component list of the
    Control Panel, so I could not use that particular removal method.

    While perusing the knowledge database at the MS Update site, I ran
    across the method of installing with a right click a highlighted INF
    file which was a setup file for the uninstall of the security patch.
    I looked for an INF directory under C:\Windows to find
    C:\Windows\INF\QFE\W98.SE then a filename for the security patch, for
    example, in my case 823559un.inf in that directory. Left clicked once
    to highlight it, then right clicked it and chose install - that
    removed whatever was indicating it was installed and caused the
    problem.


    After doing that I then downloaded and installed the update file,
    823559USA8 from the MS download site. It now indicates an installed
    presense in the Add/Remove Programs component list of the Control
    Panel.

    As a matter of reassurance, I had already downloaded and ran the
    Belarc Advisor which originally indicated the problem that required a
    reinstall of the security update, and all was well according to its
    report after rerunning it.

    So, I recommend you do in order:

    1) download the free for personal use Belarc Advisor from
    http://www.belarc.com , and run it to see what needs reinstalling

    2) According to your needs, for each item that the MS Update site
    indicates failed, look for an uninstall setup file (doubleclick to
    open it - its a text file - and at the top it will tell you something
    like "This is the Setup information file to uninstall the Windows 98
    Q823559 Update" as it did in my case).

    If you have a problem similar to mine where you need to uninstall
    what is failing to install, you can safely follow the method above to
    see if you can resolve your problem as I did mine.


    Good luck,

    -- Tom
     
  5. bozz

    bozz

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    Well....it didn't work for me. It does appear in the add/remove programs, but not show up in explorer in any of the INF\GFE folders. Belarc Advisor and Windows Update doesn't recognize that it is installed.

    I also downloaded the update to the disk and ran it. It appears to install, but the inf file is missing.

    Here are the "fails" from Belarc Advisor. The 823559 is the only one that Windows Update indicates that I need:

    Win98.SE
    UPD238453 (details...) Reinstall!
    UPD256015 (details...) Reinstall!
    UPD259728 (details...) Reinstall!
    UPD273017 (details...) Reinstall!
    UPD273991 (details...) Reinstall!
    UPDQ823559 (details...) Reinstall!
    Win98
    UPD245729 (details...) Reinstall!
    UPD314147 (details...) Reinstall!
     
  6. lotuseclat79

    lotuseclat79

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    Bozz,

    Each item in the Belarc Advisor fail list needs to first be uninstalled by whichever method works. If Add/Remove Programs indicates the existence of any one of them, using it is the preferable method of removal. If that fails, then there may be a Service Pack that installed a group of them which may be indicated in Add/Remove Programs - uninstall it and rerun Belarc Advisor. If they do not show as needing to be reinstalled, you have just removed them successfully.

    After removal of each item, then visit the Windows Update site and install the Critical Updates.

    Let us know how you fare!

    -- Tom
     
  7. bassetman

    bassetman Moderator (deceased) - Gone but never forgotten

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    Now who was it who said M$ updates never cause problems??? :rolleyes:
     
  8. petermaud

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    Hi,
    I have the same problem running windows 98se.
    This patch 823559 keeps being indicated as necessary, it downloads and installs successfully, but the next time I check Windows Update it is there again. No need, I suspect, to include a list of the times this has been done. It’s heaps.

    I've downloaded the patch, 823559USA8.EXE, from microsoft, and other sites. Again it appears to install. But when I check, Belark or Windows update, I find it hasn't.

    I’ve downloaded the Belark Advisor and run it. As a result I’ve managed to reinstall successfully most of the patches it suggested, but not 823559.

    It shows up in the add/remove, but attempts to remove it indicate there is no un.inf file. Likewise there is no such file in any of the Windows/inf folders nor on the entire computer.

    I've also booted into SafeMode, installed the patch, then immediately re-booted. The problem persists.

    At the moment I have no way of uninstalling, or correctly installing it. I’ve run through all the relevant threads without success.
    Any suggestions would be much appreciated,
    Peter
     
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