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Adhoc Wireless Vista Ultimate to XP Pro internet sharing

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  1. pjbfsc

    pjbfsc Thread Starter

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    Hi
    Having problem to share dial up internet connection in our Xp & vista laptop..
    ICS set up on vista with a Wireless Telstra Internet card
    Client is run'g XP Pro in built w/less..
    wireless networking is being used setup as adhoc
    cant get broadband as we are on a boat so no landbased conections are posable

    Able to share file's and see each other but unable to share the internet connection.. however it works fine on the vista machine

    using static IP 192.168.0.1 & 2 for the wireless conection.. Dial up connection have ticked for sharing connection.. Firewell setting on dial up but no firewell set for WLANs.. have unchecked the IPV6 from vista.. (have also tried all firewalls off but still no go)

    Note. both machines where setup and working under XP pro and internet sharing worked fine. Have now upgraded the main machine to Vista and everything works well EXCEPT the internet sharing, also tried a clean vista install and had the same problem

    the secound machine (XP Pro) cause's the vista machine to dial the internet so that part seems to be working ok and I think its just some small thing that I am missing.

    I have tried pinging a internet site from the XP machine and it resolves the address but no reply pings come through ie I ping iinet.net.au and it get ,, pinging iinet.net.au [203.59.24.221] with 32 bits of data the rest just says request timed out and no web pages work

    I cant use a router as the wireless internet card is in the vista machine

    one thing I have though of is that IP fowarding needs to be turned on on the vista machine but I cant find anywhere to turn it on (just a though but this may be wrong)
     
  2. JohnWill

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    If you manually configured the Vista IP address for the connection, you don't have ICS setup correctly. Configure ICS on the Vista machine and let the XP machine automatically obtain IP and DNS addresses.
     
  3. pjbfsc

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    Thanks for that.

    had allready tried that when I did a full clean vista install. I then said bugger ill go back to xp (to hard) a few weeks latter I thought I would try a full upgrade as all was now working well in XP (by the way I have gosted the XP connection so at least I can go back if I have to)

    anyway I have turned off ICS set the wireless connection on the Vista and the XP machine to obtain IP and DNS automatically, then rebooted both Turmned on ICS on the Vista machine and selected the wireless connection. (rebooted just incase)

    dialed into the internet and then connected to the wireless XP laptop

    No change to the problem still can ping and the ip address resolves but no return replys
     
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    For each machine in question, let's see this.

    Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt:

    Type the following command:

    IPCONFIG /ALL

    Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
    Paste the results in a message here.

    If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.
     
  5. pjbfsc

    pjbfsc Thread Starter

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    did you check my edited post as I did a few typos sorry

    Again Thanks for your help on this one

    VISTA DETAILS

    C:\Users\Paul>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HP-laptop
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    PPP adapter Telstra Bigpond:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Telstra Bigpond
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . :
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 58.165.220.220(Preferred)
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 61.9.195.193
    61.9.207.1
    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.11.12.13
    Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 10.11.12.14
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

    Ethernet adapter BigPond Wireless Broadband:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : GlobeTrotter HSDPA Network Card
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-F1-D0-00-F1-D0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-41-62-9D-C7
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Con
    nection
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-9D-EE-90
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-D4-34-47-6B
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection*:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::200:5efe:58.165.220.220%25(Preferre
    d)
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 61.9.195.193
    61.9.207.1
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 2:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2002:3aa5:dcdc::3aa5:dcdc(Preferred)
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2002:c058:6301::c058:6301
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 61.9.195.193
    61.9.207.1
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 8:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{9E41FF4F-1E4D-4A09-B72A-6ECFD8C7F
    CCD}
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{C8E226BA-3C31-423C-98EE-5785A0F4D
    99D}
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{DCA8B883-4CCE-4D7F-A2F3-2A12813F3
    DDB}
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 13:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{3C4D000C-4D95-405B-82A8-EE652D478
    9E3}
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.1%15(Preferred)
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

    C:\Users\Paul>

    **************XP MACHINE ***************
    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>ping iinet.net.au

    Pinging iinet.net.au [203.59.24.221] with 32 bytes of data:

    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.

    Ping statistics for 203.59.24.221:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sony-laptop
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mshome.net

    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mi
    ni PCI Adapter
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-02-D3-D0
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.43
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 16 July 2007 8:27:38 AM
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, 23 July 2007 8:27:38 AM

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
    on
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-4A-14-71-28
     
  6. JohnWill

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    You appear to be resolving an Internet IP address from a URL, so I'm thinking there's some firewall issue on the Vista machine in play here. obliviously, at this point, ICS appears to be working. I am assuming that PING result is from the XP machine? Does it work properly on the Vista machine? Can you PING 192.168.0.1 from the XP machine?
     
  7. pjbfsc

    pjbfsc Thread Starter

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    yes the ping is from the xp machine

    yes it works fine on the vista machine and I get a full reply

    yes can ping 192.168.0.1 from the xp machine no probs with the file sharing works as well both ways

    have turned off firewall on both machines and all anti virus as well
     
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    Try these simple tests.

    Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt:

    PING 216.109.112.135

    Tell us the results.

    PING yahoo.com

    Tell us the results.
     
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    From Vista Machine
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
    Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\Users\Paul>ping 216.109.112.135

    Pinging 216.109.112.135 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=51
    Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=50
    Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=356ms TTL=51
    Reply from 216.109.112.135: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=50

    Ping statistics for 216.109.112.135:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 354ms, Maximum = 358ms, Average = 355ms

    C:\Users\Paul>ping yahoo.com

    Pinging yahoo.com [66.94.234.13] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=557ms TTL=52
    Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=469ms TTL=52
    Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=435ms TTL=52
    Reply from 66.94.234.13: bytes=32 time=496ms TTL=52

    Ping statistics for 66.94.234.13:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 435ms, Maximum = 557ms, Average = 489ms

    C:\Users\Paul>

    From **************XP MAchine ******************
    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>ping 216.109.112.135

    Pinging 216.109.112.135 with 32 bytes of data:

    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.

    Ping statistics for 216.109.112.135:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>ping yahoo.com

    Pinging yahoo.com [216.109.112.135] with 32 bytes of data:

    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.

    Ping statistics for 216.109.112.135:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>
     
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    Do this on the XP machine.

    TCP/IP stack repair options for use with Windows XP with SP2 & Vista.

    For XP, Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt.

    For Vista, Start, Programs\Accessories and right click on Command Prompt, select "Run as Administrator" to open a command prompt.

    Reset WINSOCK entries to installation defaults: netsh winsock reset catalog

    Reset TCP/IP stack to installation defaults. netsh int ip reset reset.log

    Reboot the machine.
     
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    Got all that done and a reboot for both machines the Vista machine works as before but the XP machine sill does not work but the direct ping is diferant as below

    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>ping 216.109.112.135

    Pinging 216.109.112.135 with 32 bytes of data:

    Destination host unreachable.
    Destination host unreachable.
    Destination host unreachable.
    Destination host unreachable.

    Ping statistics for 216.109.112.135:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>ping yahoo.com
    Ping request could not find host yahoo.com. Please check the name and try again.


    C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>
     
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    pjbfsc Thread Starter

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    More info,
    on the Vista machine I have found that the 192.168.0.1 IP adress on the wireless network adapter was gone.

    I have unshared the ICS and then reshared it again and that put the ip address back again

    Now on the XP machine the pings are resolving as before but still no reply

    In otherwords no change
     
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    This seems to be some odd issue using Vista's ICS, which I have no experience with. I like the idea of getting a router. :)
     
  14. pjbfsc

    pjbfsc Thread Starter

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    Thanks for all your help so far and yes I would put a router in if I thought that would help but as the internet connection would still stay on the Vista machine I cant see how this would change the issue
    ALSO
    I notice on the Vista machine that IP routing is NOT enabled how do you enable it as this maybe worth a try

    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No (how change to Yes)
     
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    ICS changes that to yes in XP, but I don't know about Vista. Since the Vista stack is very similar to XP-SP2's stack, I would have thought that would be set here.
     
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