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  1. Christopher06

    Christopher06 Thread Starter

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    I'm looking to improve my computer's performance with my videocard, and I'm not sure how to accomplish this. The thing overheats so easily that I can only play a game for so long before it begins to lag badly, and I don't know what would cause this, the power supply, CPU, or something else.

    Any tips would be very appreciated!
     
  2. kiwiguy

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    The PSU would cause the computer to crash, not "lag".

    Perhaps giving some PC specifications would help put things in perspective?
    CPU speed, amount of RAM etc?
     
  3. Christopher06

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    I have a 2.4 Ghz P4, and 1 Gb of RAM.
     
  4. Moby

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    If you are sure it's a heat problem look inside the case. Dust builds fast on fans, filters, everything. Does the card have a fan? Is it spinning? Are all fans spinning? Have you upgraded the card into your existing case? How many fans do you have not including the CPU, Graphics card and power supply?
     
  5. Christopher06

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    Well, I updated my card to a Gefore 6800 GT and it does have a fan, though it always sounds like the fan isn't working properly, because it sounds scratchy. But it is running, and has been sounding like that since I got it. The power supply has a fan I believe, and that's it. I don't think it's a dust problem honestly because I've always had this problem, except now it seems more excessive with this new card. It's like the card is overworking the PC and causing lag.

    I just don't know what to do, I feel like the PC should be able to run games at top speeds for more than five-ten minutes.
     
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    Sounds more like a system performance problem rather then an overheating issue.

    Run a spyware and AV check.

    Stop unneeded apps while gamming.

    Defrag the HD. Also check that there is enough freespace.

    Run Hijackthis and post the results.
     
  8. MysticEyes

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    Not enough, gaming especially stesses the cpu and your vid card ( a major source of heat).
    That sounds correct. That card requires a decent PS (it uses more power than older vid cards) and will generate much more heat, which also then raises the cpu temps, when pushed during gaming. You need some case fans. Most cases have cut outs in the rear for additional fans, install some fans, blowing out, in them.

    Also make sure your case is not in some desk enclosure or up against a solid surface.
     
  9. Christopher06

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    How many fans should I get, and are they expensive? I'm pretty strapped for cash.

    Thanks for the help!

    Here's my hijackthis log:

    Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
    Scan saved at 3:30:14 PM, on 8/5/2006
    Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\Smtray.exe
    C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_01\bin\jusched.exe
    C:\Program Files\NavNT\vptray.exe
    C:\Program Files\MUSICMATCH\MUSICMATCH Jukebox\mmtask.exe
    C:\Program Files\D-Tools\daemon.exe
    C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\RunDLL32.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    C:\program files\valve\steam\steam.exe
    C:\Program Files\GetRight\getright.exe
    C:\Program Files\Kodak\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
    C:\Program Files\GetRight\getright.exe
    C:\Program Files\NavNT\defwatch.exe
    C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
    C:\Program Files\NavNT\rtvscan.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
    C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\SMAgent.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\MsgSys.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\BitComet\BitComet.exe
    C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
    C:\Documents and Settings\Chris LeBlanc\My Documents\HijackThis folder\HijackThis.exe

    R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.stfx.ca/
    O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\msdxm.ocx
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroCheck] C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Smapp] C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\Smtray.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_01\bin\jusched.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [vptray] C:\Program Files\NavNT\vptray.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [mmtask] C:\Program Files\MUSICMATCH\MUSICMATCH Jukebox\mmtask.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools-1033] "C:\Program Files\D-Tools\daemon.exe" -lang 1033
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RunDLL32.exe NvMCTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Steam] "c:\program files\valve\steam\steam.exe" -silent
    O4 - Global Startup: GetRight - Tray Icon.lnk = C:\Program Files\GetRight\getright.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: Kodak EasyShare software.lnk = C:\Program Files\Kodak\Kodak EasyShare software\bin\EasyShare.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Download with GetRight - C:\Program Files\GetRight\GRdownload.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Open with GetRight Browser - C:\Program Files\GetRight\GRbrowse.htm
    O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
    O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
    O16 - DPF: {4F1E5B1A-2A80-42CA-8532-2D05CB959537} (MSN Photo Upload Tool) - http://cmdrsexypants.spaces.msn.com//PhotoUpload/MsnPUpld.cab
    O16 - DPF: {5F8469B4-B055-49DD-83F7-62B522420ECC} (Facebook Photo Uploader Control) - http://upload.facebook.com/controls/FacebookPhotoUploader.cab
    O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{04E30910-A335-4A3D-A31A-40D7667F4A11}: NameServer = 192.168.0.1
    O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\..\{04E30910-A335-4A3D-A31A-40D7667F4A11}: NameServer = 192.168.0.1
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    O20 - Winlogon Notify: NavLogon - C:\WINDOWS\System32\NavLogon.dll
    O23 - Service: DefWatch - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\NavNT\defwatch.exe
    O23 - Service: ewido security suite control - ewido networks - C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
    O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
    O23 - Service: iPodService - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
    O23 - Service: Kodak Camera Connection Software (KodakCCS) - Eastman Kodak Company - C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\KodakCCS.exe
    O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Client (Norton AntiVirus Server) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\NavNT\rtvscan.exe
    O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
    O23 - Service: SoundMAX Agent Service (SoundMAX Agent Service (default)) - Analog Devices, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\SMAgent.exe
     
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  11. Christopher06

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    I downloaded the program, and ran the game that usually begins to overwork the computer after only a few minutes of play. These were the results:

    Temp1 38
    Temp2 56
    Temp3 -1C
    Temp4 25C
    Temp5 -1C
    Temp 54C
    Local 53C
    Remote 67C
     
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    Here are the results, I wasn't sure what to write down so here's what I think you're looking for.

    Motherboard 37
    CPU 54
    GPU 72
    GPU Ambient 54
     
  14. MysticEyes

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    Not too bad, get some case fans and you should be good to go.
     
  15. Triple6

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    Does the CPU temp go intot he 60's under load?
    GPU temp is high, is the fan spinning on it.

    Is there good airflow inside the case? Cleaning out hte dust and tidying up the cables and wires is an easy way to reduce temps by a few degrees. If not a rear 8cm or bigger exhaust fan can help, looking at all your temps I'm sure it'll help.
     
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