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Avast Free or Bitdefender Free?

Discussion in 'General Security' started by Money Pit, Jan 13, 2018.

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Which Do You Use?

Poll closed Jan 20, 2018.
  1. Avast Free Anti-Virus

    2 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Bitdefender Free Anti-Virus

    1 vote(s)
    33.3%
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  1. Money Pit

    Money Pit Thread Starter

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    I must admit I hesitated a few days before posting this poll/question. It's like asking someone which company makes the best cars.
    Truth is, I've did some reading and have sort of made up my mind. Please try to change my mind.
     
  2. DaveA

    DaveA Trusted Advisor

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    We us MSE or Defender from MS!
     
  3. 2twenty2

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    I use MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) on Windows 7 pro

    And Defender on Windows 10 pro
     
  4. Johnny-be-Good

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    I use MSE on my Win7 computers.
     
  5. lunarlander

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  6. 737Simpilot

    737Simpilot Temporarily Banned

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    I've used Bitdefender Free and Avast. I've seen network stack issues with Avast. Run an Internet speed test prior to and after installing Avast and you'll see what I mean. Avast is just too cluttered. Bitdefender Free is what I stick on all the computers. It's pretty good and will stop you from visiting a website if it has malware. It's lightweight and cloud based.

    I don't use Bitdefender Free anymore as it was messing around with Team Viewer. I just rely on Sandboxie and common sense. Which brings attention another thing. A lot of your anti-virus products won't stop polymorphic malware, so that's where Sandboxie comes in at. Read about it at the website and forum if interested. I have mine locked down where not even HTML5 cookies stay on the computer.
     
  7. lunarlander

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    I too have switched over to using non-signature based protection. It has been widely accepted that signature based protection cannot keep up with the volume of newly created malware/viruses every day.

    Then again, I still have 2 machines protected by Kaspersky Total Security. Got it at 60% off one year license for 5 devices. It has file protection, web protection, anti-exploit (called System Watcher), new executables detection (called Trusted Mode), remote access program detection (anti RAT) , program signature based firewall, encryption, protected browser ( specially configured IE called Safe Money), full featured parental control, cloud knowledge base, password manager and spam detection.

    Lots of features and it's good to know that you are covered, or at least partially, for each class of attack. And for zero days attacks, you have Trusted Mode. Can't go wrong with spending $40 for 5 machines, thats $8 per machine.

    There are some features which I don't like. The firewall allows outbound access for programs that are signed. MS has a signature for all it's programs. What if I don't like a particular one to access the internet? Worse part is, what if there is a MS program that I would ban if I knew about it? I configure all my systems for least privilege (LUA); and things like accessing the internet requires an explicit OK from me.

    Kaspersky also does not seem to like the Sandboxie sandbox. What happens when I have an outdated browser, which could happen if I don't check? The sandbox would have contained an intrusion. I suppose Trusted Mode would come to the rescue, but I have not thoroughly tested it - to see if it stops powershell or bat scripts, for instance.
     
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  8. lunarlander

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    Just found a "Shade sandbox". Will check it out.
     
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  10. managed

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    I use MSE and the latest MalwareBytes 3.3.1 Premium in Windows 7. I've read they can clash but looking online shows this is old news now and I haven't had any problems like that.
     
  11. 737Simpilot

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    You should never use two anti-virus programs at once. But MSE is said it's just a baseline scanner and they say to run something else as well.
     
  12. draceplace

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    Been paying for AVAST for several years (after using free version for several years) and it has been very good.

    Over time it has become cluttered and producing annoying nags to buy other features. I often consider changing but its hard to argue with success.
     
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  13. askey127

    askey127 Malware Specialist

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    This is not the BEST question.
    I would not use either Avast or Bitdefender. (Avast is being bought by AVG)
    My ONLY recommendation for a paid AV would be ESET.
    Otherwise, it's safer to use Windows Defender or Security essentials.
    (Been in this anti-malware business since 2006).
     
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  14. 737Simpilot

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    No it ain't. MSE is a baseline scanner and M$ themselves recommends you run another anti-virus product if your run MSE. If you are depending on MSE you will fail, and miserably. But that's not saying much when damn near all anti-virus solutions don't protect y0u from polymorphic malware. That's where a sandbox comes in at.

    Been in the business since ARPANet. https://www.howtogeek.com/173291/go...w-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/
     
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  15. askey127

    askey127 Malware Specialist

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    This whole issue is a bit more complicated than it looks.
    It may well be that the best recommendation depends on what version of Windows you have.
    For a nerdy look at part of the subject:
    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/meltdown-install-no-av-guide.html

    Lots of other parts including subjects like:
    Which AVs are completely compliant with W10.
    Which AVs may create browser hijacks of their own.
    Which may refuse to remove crippling adware.
    Which won't uninstall completely.
    These things are not usually measured by AV tests.
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2018
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