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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by matt215, Apr 16, 2011.

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  1. matt215

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    i am 18 and i will be going to college this fall. i will be going into engineering so ill need to be able to run things like auto-cad. i am also an avid gamer and i enjoy games like starcraft 2. my current computer is 7 years old and can only run it on the lowest graphic setting. i have a budget of at the most 700 dollars. my dad is going to buy me a laptop so i was thing of having a good desktop and a net-book to bring to class and type notes and write papers. my dad suggested he would put 600 dollars (what he was expecting to spend on a laptop for me) to getting a nice laptop that runs games well. i have 3 questions

    1 is this a good idea to just get a really nice laptop or do the desktop and net-book deal

    2 one of my friend put together a system for me and i want to know if it is any good.

    3 is the solid state drive a good idea




    processor AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
    $139.99

    case COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case
    $49.99

    LOGISYS Computer CF120BL BLUE 4 LED LED Case Fan
    $6.99

    hard drive-Western Digital AV-GP 1TB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal AV Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    $69.99

    Ram Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    $42.99

    Arctic Silver MTX-2.5G Matrix Thixotropic Premium Thermal Compound
    $5.95

    OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    $124.99

    Power hec HP485D 485W Power Supply - No Power Cord
    $27.99

    Graphics CardEVGA GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 01G-P3-1450-TR Video Card
    $129.99

    Mother board BIOSTAR N68S3+ Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
    $39.99

    Grand Total: $645.85

    i got this all of newegg
     
  2. thedancingman432

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    Good start for homebuilt computer. Few comments/critisms:

    1. DO NOT GET A CHEAP POWER SUPPLY!!! If there is one thing that needs to be good in a computer is the power supply. If you do it could work but more likely it would screw your computer over with surges and an inconsistent flow to your processor. Expect to $10-15 for each 100 watts.

    2. You might want to get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131595 MB. Biostar is a good company but Asus is commonly considered one of the best and the Asus MB had 4 ram slots, so you could expand into more slots if you need more RAM instead of swapping out the chips.

    3. You did not include the cost of an OS, which I an guessing in windows 7 which is about $100+, unless you plan to use Linux.

    4.Solid State Drives are a relatively new technology so your 1T hard drive should be plenty.

    5.you might not need to get a Phoenom II processor since and Anthlon II is the same processing for less money.

    6. You might want to consider getting up to 8 gb of RAM since Autodesk and whatnot tend to be very RAM heavy.

    I spent $600 on my computer for specks like the ones that you have up there (you can click on the little computer next to my name) but i didn't get a separate graphics card like you did.

    Addressing your questions:

    1. a netbook / desktop deal would work good ro you by the sounds of things, since a laptop capable of playing starcraft would be $1000+. A netbook would definitively handle word processing and stuff like that.

    2. that computer he has posted is decent but needs some modifications (see above).

    3. A solid state drive isn't worth the money right now in this day and age.

    Hope it helps :)!
     
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    A netbook is out of the question, the OP has already staed that he will need a computer to run an autocad program.

    I would recomend a Gigabyte Motherboard such as this one, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128485 or an Asus board such as this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131668

    I would not go with a 2.5" SSD rather go for a 3.5 inch such as this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227604

    Power supply is seriously under powered and a low quality unit as well. this one is good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139024

    I would not put a Nvidia video car on a motherboard with a AMD Chipset this one should work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131397

    Skip the case fan and go with a case like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

    For your gaming and cad use the processor you chose will work well

    And yes you will also have to figure into your system cost the OS. But Win7 Home Premium 64bit should work well
     
  5. thedancingman432

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    @ dustjay: he says that he wants the netbook for taking notes rather than running auto-cad. Other that than I would agree with all the points that have been made.
     
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    the netbook for note taking and simple browsing is fine.
     
  7. matt215

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    ok so this is what i got now

    i fixed the powe supply

    XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-CAB9) 650W ATX12V v2.2 & ESP12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified ...
    Item #: N82E16817207010

    and i went with the mother board

    ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
    Item #: N82E16813131595

    now i have it a the cost of about 595 so i wanna ask dusty jay is the graphics card you suggested how better is it and what how would i benefit from it because it is a difference of 55 dollars after rebate and is it worth it.

    also to everyone if i wanted to upgrade the processor i would like some suggestions and why it is better and worth the increase in price

    thank you so much
     
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    It has an integrated one, but, I never count those anyway... besides, that is a VERY budget PC =D
     
  12. matt215

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    one last question my friend said i need thermal compound with sliver in it what is a good one
     
  13. dustyjay

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    Artic Silver is a good thermal compound is good, and it isn't a bad idea to keep some around. But if ou are buy a retail CPU that comes with a HSF, it comes with a thermal pad on the HSF, so you do not need it for the initial build. However if for some reason you need to remove the HSF from the processor you will need to clean the remanents of the thermal pad off both the Processor and the HSF and use the thermal compound to replace it.
     
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    i have made all my choices and i would like to thank everyone for your comments it has helped alot
     
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