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Building first PC

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by vullandra, Feb 5, 2007.

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  1. vullandra

    vullandra Thread Starter

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    Hello!

    So, I deceided to build my first PC. I have done some extensive researh. Below you will find the components I've picked. Let me know if there is something that is not compatible and/or missing something. Please keep in mind that my budget is about $1,800.00 USD. The total for the components I've chosen is: 1736.41 (including shipping).

    Your opinions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.

    Tower:
    APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811144151

    CPU:
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model
    http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115002

    Mobo:
    GIGABYTE GA-965P-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813128323

    RAM:
    G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820231098

    HD:
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822144701

    Vid Card:
    ECS N7900GS-256MW GeForce 7900GS GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814134001

    Media Drive:
    LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827106055

    PSU:
    Rosewill RT550-135-BK 550W 135mm Fan SLI Ready - ATX V2.2/EPS12V Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817182045

    Monitor:
    SAMSUNG 941BW Black 19" 4 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824001088

    OS:
    Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Business for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16832116211
     
  2. Compiler

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    Don't quite see the $1600 price...

    Looking at a gaming rig?

    1 - Case is cheap... for that kind of money, go for something with quality. Wanna look COOL and actually be COOL and quiet, look at this babe: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129021

    2 - Vista is not exactly stable. If you hurry - you can still buy WindowsMCE with a vista PREM coupon to install at a later date. Read this about OEM / 64bit Vista:
    http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2917&p=16

    Until SP1 comes out, I wouldn't trust it much. And the 64bit version is only needed once you install MORE than 4GB RAM. Read the entire article above. Check out the Vista articles on Anantech (linked above) and Tomshardware.com and on this site of issues.

    3 - Is a 250GB HD big enough? $25~30more gets ya a 400GB drive

    4 - $150 more gets ya an 8800GTS card that is about 3-4times more powerful.

    5 - Save $200 for the 6600CPU, rather than the 6700, the difference is minimal and theres always room to overclock easily.

    ie: Games will run easily faster with the 6400 + 8800gts over the 6700 with a 7900.

    6 - I'd get a more reputable PSU (Antec / Thermaltake / Enermax / Sparkle) with Active PFC. Will cost you about $20 more for a better PSU.

    So... Deducting for CPU, will allow you to adjust for CASE, video card and PSU.
     
  3. vullandra

    vullandra Thread Starter

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    Ok, I have made some changes. Please let me know if you find components that are not compatible. As for the Vid card, I know it's a cheep one, but all I will be playing will be games like EQII, WoW, or even Vangurad. Thanks in advace for you help.

    Tower:
    XCLIO A380BK Fully Black High Gloss Finish SECC 1.0mm thickness ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811103010

    CPU:
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6700 - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115002

    Mobo:
    ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131153

    RAM:
    CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145590

    PSU:
    Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817103940

    HDD:
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822144701

    Media Drive:
    LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827106055

    Video Card:
    BFG Tech BFGR76256GTOCE GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814143049

    Monitor:
    SAMSUNG 941BW Black 19" 4 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824001088

    OS:
    Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 SP2b w/Upgrade Coupon for Vista - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16832116171

    Grand Total = $1,766.91 USD (including shipping).

    My mobo comes with a FX sound card, that is why I did not include one.
     
  4. Compiler

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    Sound card is not needed as much as the old-days.

    I HIGHLY recommend you get the lower-end ASUS mobo. The one you selected has EVERYTHING in world they could think of, installed... but it has issues... A regular 650i chipset will give you pretty much all the same functions (but not 16x16 PCIe) - but you're not going for a TOP end video anyways... and SLI is not as good as the next gen card.

    This ASUS is much more recommended:
    http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2894 ($140)
     
  5. vullandra

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    I did look at the board you recommended but I'm a bit concerned. I've been reading the reviews and I see lot's of people have been having issues with ram detections and bios. Since this will be my first build, I'm afraid I'll be lost and not know how to configure/fix the issues...

    What about this mobo:

    ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131028
     
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    i was all set to buy the p5b deluxe (w/out wifi) but i read so much negative feedback on the net it scared me off....... i ended up with the gigabyte in my sig and am v. happy
     
  7. vullandra

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    I know this is such a noob cpu question lol... but here it is...

    I was looking into vanguard and the recommended cpu speed is 3.0ghz. I will be purchasing the E6700 cpu which is 2.66ghz each processor. Would I have to OC each processor to 3.0ghz so the game can run better? or does the game add both processors as one to equel 5.32ghz? If the later is the case, would I be fine buying the E6600 processor instead to save some money?

    Also, I was looking at a lower end ASUS mobo.

    ASUS P5B-E LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131070

    I know it only has one pci express x16 slot. Is that ok?

    This is the vid card I'm thinking of getting to play vanguard. What do you think?

    XFX PVT71GUQF3 GeForce 7900GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814150216

    Thanks again for all the help, and sorry for all the questions...
     
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    the e6400 will overclock with ease to 3ghz with a good heatsink/fan and with some good memory (if u want to oc) again i also looked at the pb5-e but after looking alot of comparison reviews the ds3 scored higher...... but i'm sure the asus is also a great board
    when u overclock....the cores oc together
    i am just looking into o'clocking too...... read the shining reviews http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?item=N82E16819115004
     
  9. Leec65

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    that would make a nice set up but why are you using the 965 chipset the main diff. i see between it and the 945/975 is ram and as both will stiil use up to 4 gig and are about almost a hundred less
    on the cpu i would bet playing games you never see the diff. between the E6700 and a E6600 (my next upgrade) and 2 hundred less
    and as for as the SLI boards unless you are going to run 2 video card there is not a reason get one, the single card board are great
     
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    Awesome links, thanks! Very informative (y)
     
  12. replay

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    yeah....helped me with my decision!!!!!!!!
     
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    I would go for the Nivdia's 8 series graphics card. Sure, they might be a tad bit too pricey but you will be Direct X 10 capable when it comes to windows: vista and games. For the games you have mentioned already, I would say you really don't need a Direct X 10 graphics card. But later down the line I would consider it. From the reviews that I have read it appears to be pretty good card.

    Also keep in mind that the GTS version is slightly slower then the GTX version. I would recommend the GTS version ONLY because of the price.

    Here are a list of the GTS versions of the Nividia 800's graphics cards.

    Click here.

    Here are a list of the GTX versions of the Nividia 800's graphics cards.

    Click here.

    I'm interested in getting a Nividia 8800's graphics card but I'm going to get a GTX version and I'm waiting for the price to come down.

    bigk :)
     
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    I'd get the E6600 over the E6700, as the only difference are the clocks.
    The ASUS P5B-Deluxe is an excellent board that reaches high FSBs. Many overclocking records are set with the P5B Deluxe.
    Paired with an E6300, you can easily reach 3GHz. The extra 2MB of L2 cache does not result in a huge gain in performance. In fact, it's only about 5~10%.
     
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