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Buliding a new pc

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by RoBe, Feb 12, 2007.

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  1. RoBe

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    over the next few months i'm going to build myself up a pc.
    It'll be used mostle for CAD, DTP, photoshop and some gaming. I've got a budget of about £800, i'm looking for a pc that wont need upgrading for the next year or so with a pretty hign spec, 1gb + ram.
    HDD size doesn't matter as i'll be taking it out of my current comp.

    I was looking at maybe a core2duo with SLi/Crosfire capability and 2gb ram, 16x Dual-Layer DVD±RW, and maybe water cooling.

    Any suggestions?

    thanks
     
  2. usualsuspect

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    Hi Robe,

    Assuming it'll be mainly a workhorse as opposed to a gaming machine. I would be tempted to spend a little more on the display than everything else.

    Core2's are the in crowd at the moment. But in 18 months they'll be antiques - that's the pc market for ya.

    I wouldn't bother with the water cooling, I'd go with silent PSU instead.

    I use this machine for work by day and killing online by night and it's much nicer having a silent pc.

    Graphics card is a tough call. We're at the watershed of going over to DX10 (used in Vista) games. DX9 cards will still be supported for a long time yet but it could be that in 6 months DX9 owners will be selling up to buy a DX10 card because the games look better.

    £800 is a nice budget but I don't think it'll take you down the SLi route. The facts are at the moment that two cards aren't better than one. A 8800GTS will take around £300 out of your budget.

    I'm more than willing to help you out further if you tell me what you already have and are intending on keeping.
     
  3. RoBe

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    thanks for the reply

    i currently have a Philips MT1400,
    p4 3.06ghz (overclocked to 3.3ghz)
    1gb ram
    ati radeon 9250se
    ecs 661gx-m7 mobo
    smasung spinpoint 250gb
    maxtor 160gb

    all i'm looking to keep is the 250gb hdd, and letting my family use the remaining system while i have my own rig. But i've got monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse, printer etc. that i'll use on the new one.

    what i've looked at so far
    Akasa's Eclipse 62 case http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=137809
    640MB Asus 8800GTS http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=499239
    Sony AW-G170AB2 Black 18x DVD±RW http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=462620

    i dont really have a clue about mobos or cpu's, like what's good and what's not
     
  4. MaverickUK

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    I agree with the graphics, although if you can find a Sparkle, buy that one! You can go for either two options, an Intel or an AMD based board/CPU - let me know which one you prefer and i'll search something for you (i'm an avvid AMD fan, although at the moment Intel are leading in CPU technology and speeds).
     
  5. usualsuspect

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    An E6400 will swing in at around £120-£140
    The either of the MSI P965 mobo's are sounding pretty good but I must say I did order one of the cheaper ones when they first came out and I had to return it. But that's just plain bad luck.
     
  6. RoBe

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    thanks,

    i found the sparkle one here: http://www.logistixonline.com/logistixshop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=716&idcategory=85

    i looked at the MSI mobo's and this one looks pretty good (MSI P965 Platinum) http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=491969

    as for CPU's, i've only ever used intel so i think i'll probably stay with them
    the Core 2 Duo E6700 looks pretty good http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=430634

    i'll need to see how much all this adds up to before i get carried away

    it's £790.21 so far (CPU, mobo, gfx + case) might go for the cheaper E6600 (then it's £642.51) , what about cooling/fans etc and a psu

    maybe 2 of these: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=154680 one for the hdd bays and one at the rear

    and http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369638 or http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=536785 for the cpu
     
  7. D0C_Hol1d@y

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    Aint no way you're going to accomplish that with your budget. I suggest you check out systemax and don't build it your self.
     
  8. usualsuspect

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    Memory too. Don't skimp on the memory.
     
  9. usualsuspect

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    Depends on what they're using it for. They may not be a manic gamer. If that is the case £800 will easily see them by for a few years.
     
  10. D0C_Hol1d@y

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    That's why I told him to check out systemmax. For his budget they have machines that will do what he described for that kind of money. That's roughly $1500-$1600 USD, I think. For $900-$1500 USD a systemax workstation with a warranty and support would suite somebody who has never built a system better. For that budget, I could build something nice and have it done in a couple of days. Somebody new is going to run into problems and headaches building a computer like that. If one would get proper reading material you will be able to pull off such a feat. You will also have to understand you are you're real only support you're going to get, aside from forums like this.
     
  11. usualsuspect

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    Agreed. All comes down to the pro's and cons of DIY'in.
    PC's are so much easier to build these days though (gone are the days of setting address's etc). Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to make a PC as cheap as the major OEM's do in the first place though.
    You get the crap support but all the same - support. But where's the fun in that:rolleyes:
     
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    Yes it is a little more fun to build one. It feels better if you succeed, you get a machine for half the price it costs buying one already setup. That much is true. If you really read up on it it's not really hard to build a system. I am only giving an alternative notion to somebody considering building. Reference books are priceless when building though.

    Assuming you're going to go through with the build, I will offer this advice. No other part you choose will be as important as the power supply you choose do not, I repeat do not get cheap when you pick out a power supply.
     
  13. RoBe

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    i've looked at systemmax and they do seem better for me and what i'm going to be doing, it's a lot easier too. I'm just not sure about buying it from the US when i'm in the UK, does the warranty cover stuff outwith the states?
     
  14. usualsuspect

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    You can get them here. Used to be through Misco (££££££££££££).
     
  15. usualsuspect

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    You're best bet is to buy a mag and then do some proper research on tinternet to find out what the sellers are really like.
     
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