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Can I use a USB3.0 “Mining” port to plug in a mouse dongle?

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  1. louwin

    louwin Thread Starter

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    I bought “PCIe 1x Extender Riser Card Hishspeed USB3.0 port for mining” in the hope that I could plug my keyboard/mouse combo dongle into it.
    Can I or are the uses incompatible?
     

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    It is unlikely to work properly with a mouse /Keyboard
    Well to explain a bit deeper, it will work once windows has loaded. If you ever need to boot to safe mode or to bios to fix anything or update anything, then your mouse and keyboard probably won't work unless they are plugged into the standard motherboard ports.

    All external (additional) USB cards do need a driver of some sort. Almost all of these sorts of drivers load under windows with no fall back to safe default drivers before windows is fully loaded.
     
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    Thanks for your response. :)
    I was hoping to use this avenue to get around my real problem. Once every hour or so my system just "hangs" usually when I'm using my mouse. I've tried 5 different mice and 3 different keyboards but it just "Hangs" anyway. So I suspect the USB subsystem hence I wanted to try the USB on PCIe route.
    I was also going to try an external USB card but this was an AUD1.50 solution and you saved me trying the more expensive route that was doomed to failure anyway.
    After one of these "hangs" the keyboard "forgets" that I've pressed the num lock button if that means anything?
    I'm in Australia so it will be a month before my "mining" USB port comes (from China) anyway :(
    Anyway, thanks for your help. Back to the drawing board.... :(
     
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    What version of windows are you using?
    It is quite likely to be something to do with power options turning off USB to save power.

    Does a wired mouse work properly or does that also have problems ?
     
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    Open Device Manager by typing Devmgmt.msc from Device Manager expand "Mice and other pointing devices" double click your mouse brand name and from its properties sheet uncheck Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power check box from "Power Management" tab if it is enabled, same with keyboard
     
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    I'm using Windows 10. I doubt it is turning off power as, almost every "hang" happens when I'm actually using the mouse.
    I'm actually moving the mouse when it hangs. The only funny thing I have noticed is it usually "hangs" when the mouse is at the bottom left hand side of the screen.... Almost never when the mouse is, say, at the top of the screen....
    This has been happening for a long time. For instance, I've noticed it happens more when the mouse needs a recharge. I normally use a Logitech MX5500 combo where the mouse gets recharged on a cradle. But then again I bought a new cheapish combo as an experiment
    and it "hangs" with that one too. That mouse claims to need a battery change every couple of years. It uses 2 AAA batteries.

    Believe it or not I don't have a corded keyboard nor mouse. I will try to beg, borrow or steal one to test. I am fairly desperate and will try anything. I will also try your second suggestion with the Device Manager....

    Thanks for your interest :)
     
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    Oh yes! Sometimes (just to be awkward) the system will run for HOURS and NOT "hang" at all. For days sometimes. Then it will "hang" 4 times in 2 hours.... :(
    Sometimes I just watch stuff from my TV through WiFi to my computer and it doesn't "hang" at all. But then ONCE, just ONCE it did!!!!
     
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    Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power check box was already unchecked :(
    And I have tried with a corded keyboard and mouse and it has "hung" twice in the last two days.
    Strangely, my corded keyboard and mouse are Microsoft but I still get the odd error message from "Setpoint" which is a Logitech driver. I have lots of Logitech mice and keyboards but they are ALL switched off and all dongles have been unplugged????
    My PCIe USB device is 3 weeks away and I am curious if straight out of the wrapper. I can live with the BIOS not recognising the devices till Windows 10 loads provide Windows 10 itself will allow me to login correctly. I will have to revert to the dongle and keyboard and mouse combo as I only have PCIe USB one port. Should I need access to the BIOS then I will plug in the corded keyboard and mouse. Can you suggest if this will work? The fact that
    Thanks for your help :)
     
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    The Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power check box was already unchecked.... :(
    And I have tried with a corded keyboard and mouse and it "hung" 3 times in the last couple of days.
    Strangely, my corded keyboard and mouse are made by Microsoft but I still get error messages from "Setpoint" which is a Logitech driver. I have LOTS of Logitech mice and keyboards but they are ALL switched of and ALL their dongles unplugged.
    My PCIe USB plug is about 3 weeks away still and I'm curious if it will work straight out of the wrapper or do I have to load another driver?
    I can live with the BIOS not seeing the mouse and keyboard as long as Windows 10 will see it and allow me to login etc. I will have to revert to the dongle for the keyboard and mouse dongle as the PCIe USB adaptor has only one port.
    Thanks for your help :)
     
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