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Cascading two different routers

Discussion in 'Networking' started by theallspark, Jan 14, 2013.

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  1. theallspark

    theallspark Thread Starter

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    Hi all,

    So I have two routers, the primary is a Belkin F5D8236-v3, which is already set up and connected to the internet. The secondary is a Linksys WRT160N.

    So what I did was first connect the secondary to my laptop using an ethernet cable, then disabled the NAT and DHCP server, then renamed the SSID and the password same as the primary. Then connected the secondary using the ethernet port to the ethernet port of the primary (LAN-LAN connection).

    What happens now? What should I see when I scan the network? Im currently seeing one network.

    Thank you for the reply.
     
  2. etaf

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    you will - as you named the wireless the same and if on the same channel

    use xirrus that should see the mac address and post the two wireless signals - even if on the same SSID and channel

    I name the wireless different names and different channels and security passwords - and have different devices connect to different wireless networks, i also have a DLNA server on one router and share - and different network printers I have connected by Ethernet and wireless - but thats just how i prefer to have the network setup - and limit access, also use 5ghz signal - as they are pretty much next to each other, I use an extender later in the house to extend the range of just one of the signals only (2.4ghz)

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    Run Xirrus Wi-Fi Inspector
    Download and install

    If you cannot access the internet with this PC, then you will need to copy the program across to the faulty PC
    Save the file to a USB flash drive or other removable media. Plug it into the working computer with internet access and copy the file and install the program.
    You will now need to take a screen shot and copy that back to the working PC and attach the screen shot in a reply on the forum here.

    http://www.xirrus.com/Products/Wi-Fi-Inspector.aspx
    Direct link to the program is here http://info.xirrus.com/Wi-FiInspectorConfirmation.html

    {If the above link does not work heres another link http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_download/fid,77196-order,4/download.html}

    Then run and install the program - on a wireless enabled PC/Laptop
    if you get an error - You need will need to have NET Framework installed for the WiFi Inspector to function.
    On windows 8 - (i do not have windows 8) but, it would appear that, When you first try to run, you may get a message that .net framework is needed, and included in that message is a link to download/install.

    Run the program

    A user guide is available here http://www.xirrus.com/cdn/pdf/Xirrus-Wi-Fi-inspectorguide-1-2-1-RevB-6.aspx

    post a screen shot of the program running.
    if there are a lot of networks showing can you click on "networks" top lefthand area - so we can see all the network information.

    post which SSID name is yours, its located in the list, under network "Adapter Name" (1st column)

    To post a screen shot of the active window.
    1) hold the Alt key and press the PrtScn key. Open the Windows PAINT application (Start> All Programs> Accessories> Paint) and Paste the screen shot. You can then use PAINT to trim to suit, and save it as a JPG format file.
    OR
    2) if you are using Vista/Windows 7 you can use the "snipping tool" which is found in Start> All programs> Accessories> Snipping Tool

    To upload the screen shot to the forum, open the full reply window ("Go Advanced" button) and use the Manage Attachments button to upload it here.
    Full details are available here http://library.techguy.org/wiki/TSG_Posting_a_Screenshot

    Note:
    For a reliable (or robust as the Xirrus user guide says) wireless connection you need a signal of about -70 dBm or better. "A desirable signal level for a robust Wi-Fi connection will be green".
    note: the signal level is a negative number, so for example -88 is worst and -40 is better

    If you are using the Mac OS then use http://www.istumbler.net/

    if you want to optimise base station position and signal strength / dead spots use
    http://www.chimoosoft.com/products/apgrapher/ which has a graph function to monitor signal
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    Connecting two (or more) SOHO broadband routers together

    Connecting two (or more) SOHO broadband routers together
    From a John Will Post :)

    http://library.techguy.org/wiki/Connecting_two_SOHO_broadband_routers_together

    Note: The "primary" router can be an actual router, a software gateway like Microsoft Internet Connection Sharing, or a server connection that has the capability to supply more than one IP address using DHCP server capability. No changes are made to the primary "router" configuration.

    Configure the IP address of the secondary router(s) to be in the same subnet as the primary router, but out of the range of the DHCP server in the primary router. For instance DHCP server addresses 192.168.0.2 through 192.168.0.100, I'd assign the secondary router 192.168.0.254 as it's IP address, 192.168.0.253 for another router, etc.

    Note: Do this first, as you will have to reboot the computer to connect to the router again for the remaining changes.

    Disable the DHCP server in the secondary router.

    Setup the wireless section just the way you would if it was the primary router, channels, encryption, etc.

    Connect from the primary router's LAN port to one of the LAN ports on the secondary router. If there is no uplink port and neither of the routers have auto-sensing ports, use a cross-over cable. Leave the WAN port unconnected!

    This procedure bypasses the routing function (NAT layer) and configures the router as a switch (or wireless access point for wireless routers).

    For reference, here's a link to a Typical example config using a Netgear router

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  3. theallspark

    theallspark Thread Starter

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    @etaf Thanks for the great articles! For my setup I followed this: http://homekb.cisco.com/Cisco2/ukp.aspx?pid=80&login=1&app=search&vw=1&articleid=3733 LAN-LAN setup. but I had problems because I set the IP address of the 2ndary to 192.168.2.2 (192.168.2.1 being the primary router) which is in the pool of the primary router (192.168.2.2 up to 192.168.2.100). So I followed the John Will post and changed the IP address of the 2ndary router to 192.168.2.254. Hopefully I should have no more problems. Currently I noticed a +1 bar increase in my wireless signal. So I guess the John Will post did it for me. I'll post again should there be any more problems. Thanks a lot kind sir.
     
  4. etaf

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    your welcome (y) thanks for letting us know
    You can mark your own threads solved using the [​IMG] button at the top of the page of the thread in the upper left corner. :)
     
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