Choosing Modern Office Suite Options

luddiltein21century

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HI Folks,

I am a retired senior who simply uses office 2003 (I think) for excel and word. I do not want to spend on office 365 but if I wish to update to office 10 then:
(1) how much will it costs (2) what are the reliable sites to buy this update (3) I did go to the microsoft.com site but got no information as to how to do it.
If some kind people will answer these questions I will appreciate it - I hope that some moderator will show me how to receive the asnwers.
sincerely,
luddite
 

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Hello and welcome!

From Microsoft, the new Office 2019 Home and Student version costs $149.99, and only has Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. It does not include any free upgrades.

The online subscription costs $69.99 per year, and has additional software like Outlook, OneNote, and OneDrive. OneDrive is an online storage to save your files to and will be safe if you have any computer issues. It includes any upgrades that Office may have during the course of the subscription.

While I cannot comment on what sites are the safest, there will be some that may offer the Office 2019 for far less than Microsoft and those are the ones to be leery about. The safest place will be with Microsoft's site.

In this day in age, i have becoming more in favor in subscriptions as they tend to be more value and more peace of mind.
 

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I think that Office 365 is cheaper than Office 2019
In 2 years you would have paid as close to the offline installation for the subscription... it's whether you want to continue to have the other benefits with Office365 past that. It really is a preference thing.
 

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if I wish to update to office 10
Office 2010 has just reached its end of life (October 13, 2020) and therefore will not receive any further updates. You will be hard-pressed to find a legitimate download source.
You can get Office 2019 for $114.99 at Amazon.com (assuming you're in the U.S.) but it's only for systems running Windows 10 and you didn't state what operating system you are using:

https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Office-Student-Windows-Download/dp/B07H4XBM1R

But as already pointed Office 2019 only contains Word, Excel and PowerPoint. It doesn't include Outlook and I suspect if you're using Office 2003 you're also using Office Express which hasn't been supported for a long time so you'd have to find another email client to use.

There are a couple of other alternatives. One would be using the free online versions:

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-use-microsoft-office-for-free-on-the-web

Another would be switching to the free LibreOffice which supports Word and Excel documents:

https://www.libreoffice.org/

As for telling you how to receive replies all I can do is post that in a reply so if you don't know how to get them that seems inadequate. Having said that, you should receive an email notification when a reply is posted and all you have to do is click in the link in the email and it will bring you to your thread. Otherwise, you can just visit the site and search for your thread through your profile or via the search feature using either keywords or your username.
 
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I think that Office 365 is cheaper than Office 2019
The difference is that with office 365 you're buying a subscription for a limited time, while with office 2019 you're buying a license to use explicit software.

With Office 365 you don't need to upgrade to new release because you'll always have the latest version in your price.
While with office 2019 you have to renew license to buy new product.

Office 365 is not really cheaper except if you plan to use it for a short period of time.
The benefit is that you can use it on multiple devices with up to X users, while office 2019 is tied to one device with unlimited local users.

The difference is huge, and IMO the price is not comparable.
 

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The difference is that with office 365 you're buying a subscription for a limited time, while with office 2019 you're buying a license to use explicit software.

With Office 365 you don't need to upgrade to new release because you'll always have the latest version in your price.
While with office 2019 you have to renew license to buy new product.

Office 365 is not really cheaper except if you plan to use it for a short period of time.
The benefit is that you can use it on multiple devices with up to X users, while office 2019 is tied to one device with unlimited local users.

The difference is huge, and IMO the price is not comparable.
x users? Are you referring to the Family subscription?
 
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Ah OK, I am blind that's for sure! :D

So the MS Office software is going out every 3 years and costs around $440: LINK
Which has to be renewed every 3 years to have latest stuff.

Personal subscription for 3 years then costs 3 x 70 = $210
Man that's 2x cheaper?

For someone who really needs office 7 bucks per month isn't that much IMO.
 

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I guess spending the money to get the perpetual license may be worth it since MS had their services go down twice in 2 weeks... lol

With the ability to use any computer and go the portal and edit files that are stored in OneDrive, that is another reason. :)
 
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15th Oct2020.
HI Folks,

I am a retired senior who simply uses office 2003 (I think) for excel and word. I do not want to spend on office 365 but if I wish to update to office 10 then:
(1) how much will it costs (2) what are the reliable sites to buy this update (3) I did go to the microsoft.com site but got no information as to how to do it.
If some kind people will answer these questions I will appreciate it - I hope that some moderator will show me how to receive the answers.
sincerely,
luddite
You have several nice options:

You could as others have suggested buy Office 2019 off of Amazon. (Beware of scams.) Look for many reviews of the purchaser with 4 or 5 stars. But that is still on the expensive side. Than you always have that issue of a product key that won't work or something with used software.

As a senior citizen, you probably are an exclusive home user and most home users only need a nice word processing package, and perhaps a simple spreadsheet program, as most casual users are doing note-taking and letter writing. Many don't even use the spreadsheet part of Office software. I read research, that less than 30% of home users even use the spreadsheet part of their Office Suites. However, the OP mentioned needing a word processing program and a spreadsheet program. All of the following below have those functionalities:

Office/Microsoft 365 IS a good value IF you are a business power user, as the license key can be applied to up to 5 computers or devices each year. BUT for a home user that just needs to do basic word processing/spreadsheets, I don't see the value in a 365 plan. Most seniors have limited income and the big question for them is, Do you really want to shell out $100 a year for life to Microsoft to use a casual note taker and letter writer, and basic math calculations? In my own view as a home user, I would not want to do that, If you are not in a business environment, I don't think Office 365 is worth the money.

If you get a free Microsoft Account, you can get a free and perfectly legit version of MS Office called Microsoft Office Online: It lacks some business advanced features, but is 100% free and is regularly updated with new features all the time. Really perfect for exclusive home users such as seniors, or for those who don't want to shell out money for a Microsoft Office 365 subscription. All you need is a free Microsoft Account. Click Sign in at this link to sign up:

https://www.office.com/?WT.mc_id=O16_BingHP

Additionally, if you have Windows 10, you already have the free Office apps on your computer. All you need is a Microsoft Account and Internet Access to get started using the suit. To use the free Office apps, just type Office in the search box, and look for a search result that says, "Office App." Sign up or sign in with your Microsoft account and you will be good to go with a new Office Suite. The only thing is, you must have reliable Internet and a web-browser to use the service.

You also have the option to use an excellent Office Suite in Google Drive. All you need for this is an Internet Connection, a web-browser, and a Google account. You will be able to do many of the same things in Google Drive, that you can do in Microsoft Office, Google Docs is the competitor program to Microsoft Word, and many elderly prefer that to Microsoft Office because some people find the Microsoft Office Ribbon confusing. Google Docs uses conventional toolbars, that some find easier to navigate.

More information to sign up for Google Drive. (includes Google Docs.) here: (And other excellent Office compatible programs,)

https://www.google.com/docs/about/

But, you may be offline and may need to open up some office software on your computer. One of the best replacements for Microsoft Office and free is called "Softmaker Free Office." It has the best comparability with Microsoft Office files, a choice of Toolbar or Ribbon Interfaces, and can even open up Microsoft Office files that are password-protected with no loss of formatting. It is super fast and has tons of nice features. You will need to get a product key sent to you via email to get Softmaker Free Office, but it is excellent for its speed and reliability. You can download it here: (It saves in Microsoft Office format by default!)

https://www.freeoffice.com/en/

Finally, there is Libre Office, It has a lot of features and some other tools not found in the above programs, such as a Database Program and Math functionality program, and a drawing program. BUT the program is quite bloated, and is not always the most compatible with Microsoft Office file formats. Program crashes in Libre-Office are a little more common than usual. But updates are regular, and it is an open-sourced platform with a wide variety of support personal. It is considered to be a newer version of the older Open Office, org. But I can't recommend Open Office, as it has not been updated for some time, and all the new Open Office developments are now on Libre Office. Link is here:

https://www.libreoffice.org/

By combining one of the free online Office Suites with one of the desktop versions below, you should be all set. If you go with Libre Office you should probably change the save as option to save in Microsoft Office file formats as the default for "Save As" so that you can easily share other Office files.

If you would have said, that you have Office 2007 or higher already on your PC, I would say that as a home user, just keep using it and keep up with your Windows Updates and you should be fine. The big problem with Office 2003, is that it can not open up files saved in the new docx. file formats, so I would look at some of the above options, if you don't want to pay for Office 2019 or don't want to shell out $100 a year for Microsoft Office 365. Let us know what you choose! Oh, super important! PLEASE UNINSTALL YOUR OLD OFFICE 2003 BEFORE YOU GO WITH A NEW DESKTOP OFFICE VERSION NO MATTER WHAT! Than, reboot your system before you install the new Office version. This will be needed before installing Softmaker Free Office or Libre Office. As the others are web-sites and apps, for using those, you don't need to uninstall or install anything.

Note that Microsoft Office 2019 will be the last MS Office version offered as a "To own" suite. Security Updates to MS Office 2019 will continue until 2029, the traditional 10-year cycle for Microsoft Software. BUT Office 2019 will not get any new features. With Microsoft Office, to get new features you will either have to take an Office/Microsoft 365 subscription, or use the slightly trimmed down Microsoft Office Online Web version/free Office apps, or switch to one of the desktop competitors mentioned above.

Jack
 
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