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Cris_Cr0ss

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I would like to build a new computer and these are some of the parts and their prices which i have found and am willing to pay for. They are in a txt file. If you can find the same one cheaper or better etc please post. I prefer the prices in Canadian but i guess US will do. Can you guys also check to see if the prices and products are worth it/compatible/good etc. Thanks

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Howdy

I think it would be better if you pasted your shopping list.

I had a look at the motherboard, motherboards are such an important part, I would get the best you could afford, you won't regret it in the long run.



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Sound Card
http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartID=792047
Creative OEM Sound Blaster Audigy 2, 24-Bit,6.1 Surround S.
$119.99 CDN

Other:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-102-158&depa=0
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 PCI Sound Card, Model "SB0244" -OEM
$69.00 US
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\Keyboard
Same

\Mouse
Same

\Monitor
Same
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Speaker
http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartID=441025
Altec 220CN 2.0 Speakers,11W RMS,vol. cntrls,headphone jack
$39.99 CDN

Other:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=36-113-126&depa=0
Altec Lansing 251 5.1 Amplified Speaker System -RETAIL
$73.00 US
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Router
http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartID=498146
LINKSYS CABLE/DSL 1-PORT ROUTER 10/100 (Bilingual pkg)
$69.99 CDN

Other:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-124-010&depa=0
LINKSYS Wireless G 54Mbps Broadband Router, Model WRT54G
$89.99 US
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Hard Drive
http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartID=685101
Maxtor Ultra 120GB Int. Hard Drive 7200 RPM U133 8MB PC/Mac
$189.99 CDN

Other:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-136&depa=0
Maxtor 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model 6Y120L0, OEM Drive Only
$93.50 US
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Floppy Drive
http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartID=402003
Sony OEM Floppy Drive 1.44MB Internal,white grey bezel
$19.99 CDN
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Motherboard
http://www.provantage.com/buy-7abit...-atax2-lan-usb2-motherboard-abit-shopping.htm
VI7 Pentium 4 DDR400 (PC3200) AGP 8X ATAx2 LAN/USB2 Motherboard
$63.29 US

Other:
http://store.yahoo.com/pcpartscollection/inteld850gb.html
D850GB Pentium 4 I850 Motherboard
$143.00 US
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Fan
http://www.provantage.com/buy-7strp...onnector-startech-computer-parts-fanbox92-sho
pping.htm
9.2cm Case Cooling Fan w/Internal Power Connector
$3.61 US
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Video Card (AGP)
http://www.compusmart.com/product.asp?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartID=557072
Ati Radeon 9200 128MB DDR 128-BIT AGP 8X, VGA, TV bilingual
$149.99 ea CDN
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Case
http://www.provantage.com/buy-7aopn...supply-silver-aopen-91-97020-c36-shopping.htm
QF50C PC Case Front USB with 300W Power Supply - SILVER
$ 56.18 US

Other:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3472273399&category=51060
Black Neon Computer Case w/ 350W Power Supply
$51.00 CDN

Other:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3472293180&category=51060
Silver Computer case w/ 350w, Front USB
$34.99 CDN
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Cd Drive
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=27-101-406&depa=0
LG Electronics Beige 52X CD-ROM, Model GCR-8523B (B), OEM
$15.50 US
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Ps. I have this extra memory but i don't know what it is if its 128 256 etc how can i find out by just looking at it? And how do i know if it can fit into my slot on this pc?
 

Cris_Cr0ss

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bump PLEASE help i dont want to get ripped off but im not very smart with that stuff.
 

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Have a look at this post that was in one of my threads. I was looking for a decent speed and this looks good.
 
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Cris_Cross

If money is an issue... upgrade your motherboard to ASUS get one with a 6.1 surround sound card built in. (You can always upgrade to a hardware audio card later on) get it with an 8x agp slot. Take a look at this link. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=35543&sku=MBM-A7V8XX-2600 you don't have to buy from them, but something akin to this is a pretty good combo.

Buy good memory and at least 512MB. Expect to pay about 100.00 US
Buy a decent video card like an ATI 9600 SE (100.00) or if you can stretch your budget go up to the 9600XT (180.00-200.00) (Hell if you can really stretch go to the 9800 XT 399.00)

Decent cases are around $70.00 get at least a 400W powersupply with it.

120 GB Hard drives can be had for about 99.00. If you want to boost your speed even more you can go with Serial ATA drives. But the drives are more expesive and so are the Motherboards to support it. (although they are getting close) Personally, I think you money is better spent on good RAM.

Buy good quality fans and CPU cooler. another $50.00

I know that it's more that the 299.00 but you will have a system that you can expand on down the road. Many of these low dollar systems have very few PCI slots, and no AGP slot which really limits what you can do down the line. So you end up completely rebuilding when you should have been able to upgrade. The way I see it, if you are on a budget it is even more important to buy good core components that allow you to upgrade in the future. Good case (not fancy, but good quality), good motherboard, good memory. Everything else can be easily upgraded later on. A good site to pick a quality motherboard is Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com)

Steve

PS to cut costs further go with an 80Gig drive for about 50.00 and a NVIDIA 5200 or 5600 which you can get for about 50.00 also.
 

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hmm kk thanks alot i will take your words in considertion, yes i might move with the 80gb too and i can always add my 20gig hard drive later as soon as i learn how to make it a slave. as for the Nvida 5200 n 5600 are they compatible with the latest games, ie splinter tell pandora tommorow which im buying next week or unreal tournament 2004 which im borrowing from a friend to try out.?

As for that MOBO: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=35543&sku=MBM-A7V8XX-2600

although it seems overall pretty nice as i was reading about it, i still prefer a p4 as for the GHZ its fairly nice 1.9 how much will a 2.4 cost? alot more than a 1.9 or just a few bucks? Also as you can see im only 15 my parents making me buy the whole thing, (and build it) so rite now im working on downstairs computer breaking it apart and rebuilding it getting used and practising. so yea u no what i mean. Well g2g rite now ill check back later.

[quote="steve65]Buy good quality fans and CPU cooler[/QUOTE]
can you name some link me i don't know anything about that.


its an athalon isnt that amd? I want an intel p4 processor i mean im pretty much buying a new computer mite as well get the top of line no?
 

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2 ways to make it into a slave:

1) attach both drives you want to the primary IDE slot and change the jumpers on the new drive to Master and the 20Gb to slave (that little black or white piece.) There is usually a sticker on how to set the jumper to slave. IT's usually initialled SL for slave (MA for Master and and CS for Cable Select)

2) Attach the new drive on the primary IDE slot as instructed in 1). The 20Gb can be set as a master on the secondary IDE port. If you have a CD drive on the secondary port you will need to change the CD Drive to a slave.

Basically as long as the new drive is on the Primary IDE port as a Master, you're good to go

Also in the link that I put in for you, there is some links for decent fans. ALso there is a part for you where you can attach fans to your hard drives, which is a good thing cause it extends the life of the drives.
 
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1st of all, for gaming go athlon it out performs the p4. For video rendering go p4. thats if you compare the same cpu speeds eg 2.6 to 2.6. However, because you can get a 3.0 AMD for the cost of a 2.6 p4 you tel me which is top of the line? In either case the benchmarks are so close that you will not notice the performance difference. That 100.00 extra you spend on a p4 over a comparable Athlon could be spent on upgrading your video card which will make a much bigger difference than the processor will.

2nd it's all a moot point since both amd and p4 have the 64 bit processing out now. In the next year or so you will start to see programs optimized to take advantage of it and you will be looking to upgrade anyway. The point is, it is rarely wise to buy the very top of the line computer equipment since this years top of the line is next years old news.
Anyway if you are considering a 299.00 system you aren't in the market for top of the line anyway.

As a suggestion: Put together a nice Asus MB with a AMD 2.5G or above Processor. Reuse your case (If possible), CDROM, and harddrive and floppy. Upgrade your powersupply and get a 9600xt if you really want to play the newer games. That should get you down close to 299.00

If you buy that system off of ebay, I will almost guarantee you that you'll be disapointed with the performance. esp for games like unreal t4.

Steve

As for me, I run a Athlon 1.8 with a 9600XT Video Card I use it for Call Of Duty, Flight Sim 2002, Battlefield 1942 and others. All of which it runs smoothly. Someone said that unless you can double your CPU speed, it's probably not worth it. Therefore, I waiting for the 3.6 Ghtz procesors to come out.

Anyway good luck on whatever you decide.
 

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Cris you will need to find another vender other than newegg; they do not ship to Canada. Your parts look ok to me. If you are building this for mostly gaming, I would go AMD [in fact almost all of my builds are AMD]

Do make sure you buy a quality power supply; cheap no name ps cause all types of problems. Good brands are Antec, Enermax, Enlight, or Coolmax; there are others those are just what I use in my builds. Stick with a name brand for the motherboard. If you are going AMD, then Asus, Epox, Abit, or Soltek make excellent boards. If you are going Intel, then nothing beats an Intel board [unless you want to overclock then go Asus for Intel]
 
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The power supply is way to small and will probably fry your mobo in a year. The hard drive is no deal either, best buy has a 160 Gig Seagate (the best) on sale for only 100 bucks. Good sound card and video card, but I think you can find the video card much cheaper if you look hard ;)
 
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crjdriver said:
Do make sure you buy a quality power supply; cheap no name ps cause all types of problems. Good brands are Antec, Enermax

Why is it that people always skimp on the power supply :confused: It is one of the most important parts of the PC and people always try to buy the "bargain" :( The best ones are from Zalman and Seasonic. Seasonic has patents on most of the modern technology that is used in most power supplies today. Personally I would NEVER use a Antec or any of those other brands mentioned because I've seen them burn up more mobos than you can shake a stick at :D If you're only keeping the computer for a year then they would be OK, but if you know you're keeping it longer then invest in a GOOD power supply :)
 

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I have been building with Enlight ps for over 10 years; no problems at all. Antec, Enermax, and Coolmax are all quality units that I have used in over 500 builds. You can of course use whatever brand you want.

I have seen cheap ps such as foxxcon, and deer actually explode. It is not pretty.
 
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Building a computer for sale that you won't see again, and building a computer for your own use are two different things. I don't even think any of those supplies support active PFC...and we won't even get into forward converting :rolleyes: :D
 
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