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Connected to internet and network, but no local connections.

Discussion in 'Networking' started by Xanny, Dec 22, 2009.

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  1. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Just got hold of the new 2.0 Homehub, and it's decided that it will connect me to the internet but not put me in a local network.

    What I mean by that is, I normally play games with my brothers on LAN but games I make, they can't see, and games they make I cannot see.


    Any ideas? I've tried getting us all in a workgroup but it's just hassle.



    Thanks,

    Xanny
     
  2. wcnnz

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    Sounds similar to a problem I had.
    Follow the instructions below (courtesy of JohnWill) and send back the results (for each computer please).
    Thanks,
    wcnnz

     
  3. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\King Noob>nbstat -n
    'nbstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

    C:\Documents and Settings\King Noob>nbtstat -n

    Wireless Network Connection 3:
    Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.70] Scope Id: []

    NetBIOS Local Name Table

    Name Type Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    RCANE <00> UNIQUE Registered
    RCANE <20> UNIQUE Registered
    WORKGROUP <00> GROUP Registered
    WORKGROUP <1E> GROUP Registered
    WORKGROUP <1D> UNIQUE Registered
    ..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered

    C:\Documents and Settings\King Noob>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RCane
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 3:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Belkin 54g Wireless USB Network Adap
    ter #2
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-50-BA-BD-D9
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.70
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 2009-12-22 23:29
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 2009-12-23 23:29

    C:\Documents and Settings\King Noob>
     
  4. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
    C:\Documents and Settings\Timbo>nbtstat -n
    Local Area Connection:
    Node IpAddress: [0.0.0.0] Scope Id: []
    No names in cache
    Wireless Network Connection:
    Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.64] Scope Id: []
    NetBIOS Local Name Table
    Name Type Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    TIM <00> UNIQUE Registered
    TIM <20> UNIQUE Registered
    WORKGROUP <00> GROUP Registered
    WORKGROUP <1E> GROUP Registered
    WORKGROUP <1D> UNIQUE Registered
    ..__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered
    C:\Documents and Settings\Timbo>ipconfig /all
    Windows IP Configuration
    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : tim
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home
    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ether
    net
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-8C-71-5D-FF
    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Belkin High-Speed Mode Wireless G US
    B Network Adapter
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-50-C2-FE-33
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.64
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 22 December 2009 14:07:58
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2009 14:07:58
    C:\Documents and Settings\Timbo>
     
  5. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
    C:\Documents and Settings\Edward>nbtstat -n
    Wireless Network Connection:
    Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.67] Scope Id: []
    NetBIOS Local Name Table
    Name Type Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    TEDDY <00> UNIQUE Registered
    TEDDY <20> UNIQUE Registered
    WORKGROUP <00> GROUP Registered
    WORKGROUP <1E> GROUP Registered
    C:\Documents and Settings\Edward>ipconfig /all
    Windows IP Configuration
    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : teddy
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home
    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RT73 USB Wireless LAN Card
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-2E-ED-CD-9D
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2009 00:37:07
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 24 December 2009 00:37:07
    C:\Documents and Settings\Edward>



    The first one, King Noob, is the problematic one. Timbo and Edward are fine.
     
  6. TerryNet

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    You succeeded in getting them all into the same workgrroup, named "WORKGROUP."

    RCane and tim both claim to be the Master Browser. This is usually caused by firewall(s) preventing them from "seeing" each other.
     
  7. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Uhh, would you happen to know the way I fix that? Haha. I'm not computer illiterate but I don't wanna mess around with a router firewall incase I break it. My dad would actually disown me.
     
  8. TerryNet

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    I doubt it is any router firewall.
     
  9. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Oh. Well how could a firewall on one computer stop another computer from seeing it on the LAN?
     
  10. TerryNet

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    The purpose of all firewalls is to protect the host from undesired network access. A secondary purpose of most firewalls is to protect the host from undesired outgoing networking.
     
  11. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Mmkay well either way, I didn't have the problem before with exactly all the same software, just an earlier version of the homehub. So it's not the firewalls, I don't think.
     
  12. TerryNet

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    It's very rare, but not impossible, that the router is at fault. But if it is, then I wonder why the 3rd PC (teddy) is not equally impacted?
     
  13. Xanny

    Xanny Thread Starter

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    Mmm maybe. I have no idea, but I think I'm just going to put the older router back in. This one is causing me strange connection problems now, on my Mum's computer as well. So, thanks for your help :)
     
  14. TerryNet

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    Note (from an ipconfig) that this router is using the 192.168.1.x subnet. Check the old router to see if the subnet is the same or different. If it is different, you may have a firewall that trusts the old subnet but not 192.168.1.x.

    Then again, the new router may be defective.
     
  15. JohnWill

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    Try pinging each computer from the other computers by name. Post the results here.
     
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