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Copying CDs

Discussion in 'Multimedia' started by dianerowley, Nov 14, 2001.

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  1. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    Toshiba's CD-RW Station - USB Interface
    NTI CD-Maker 2000 Standard Software

    I want to copy audio CDs that I have bought. I follow the instructions but continue to get "illegal error". The log reads:


    ========== BEGIN OF LOG ==========

    NTI CD-Maker 2000 Standard Version 4.0.41 (SKU-20410224052)
    Start Time: Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 04:02:18PM

    CD Layout: Audio CD
    Disc Format: CD-DA
    Number of Tracks: 1
    Total Blocks: 14317
    Track 1: CDDA; LBA = 170; PreGap = 150; Length = 14167; Block Size = 2352; Source: E:\Track01.cda

    CD-Recorder: LG CD-RW CED-8083B (D:)
    Firmware Version: 1.05
    Disc Media: CD-R
    Free Disc Blocks: 348597
    Test: No
    Write Speed: 4x
    Write Method: Session-At-Once
    Close Disc: No
    Leave Session Open: No

    Error Code: 1014
    CDB: AA 00 00 00 2B F2 00 00 00 1B 00 00
    SenseKey:03 ASC:0C ASCQ:00

    Finish Time: Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 04:02:40PM

    ========== END OF LOG ==========

    Other than an Installation Guide for USB Interface, I received no instructions for use. I have done on the web and gotten basic instructions but nothing to indicate this error code #1014.

    I have tried using the Audio Record portion of this software and also the CD Copy portion of this software to no avail.

    I have been able to copy some audio CDs that I got from the library but none that I purchased. Thinking this might be a copyright problem I checked with friends who have no problem copying CDs they bought.

    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    Diane
     
  2. eddie5659

    eddie5659 Moderator Malware Specialist

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    Hiya

    Okay, first off, what is the name of your drive? Is it one of the following?

    Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R1002 4.2.67
    Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R2002 4.2.67
    Toshiba DVD-ROM IPC5025A 4.2.75
    Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R1102 4.2.75
    Toshiba CDRW/DVD SDR2102 5.0.15 (Made on and after Oct. 2nd, 2001)
    Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-R2102 5.0.15 (Made on and after Oct. 2nd, 2001)
    Toshiba CD-R/RW SR-C8002 5.0.3

    If you don't know, this is how to find out.

    Control Panel | System. Device Manager tab. Click on CDROM. You may need to expand to find the full name.

    Regards

    eddie
     
  3. slipe

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    It looks like the current NTI update is 4.2.75: http://download.ntius.com/update/

    The firmware for the LG should be 1.06: http://www.lgeservice.com/CED8083BFirm106.htm

    It is always a good first step in any troubleshooting to download and install the latest firmware and software.

    There are a very few new music CD releases with a new copy protection that your burner will not break. I think there are only a half dozen or so titles out right now that has that protection, so it is unlikely you have encountered it. Try one of the CDs you are trying to record in your friend’s burner to determine you haven’t run across it.

    These are the brands recommended by LG:
    CD-R Discs: Ricoh, Mitsubishi Chemical, Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden, Mitsui Toatsu, TDK, Kodak, or SKC.
    CD-RW Discs: Ricoh, Mitsubishi Chemical,Verbatim, Imation, and Sony.

    If the firmware and software update doesn’t help, I know of some free software that might work that has an excellent downloadable manual. Get back and I’ll post the link.
     
  4. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    Eddie

    My CD ROM is:

    Toshiba CD-ROM XM-1802D

    Diane
     
  5. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    Slipe

    I would very much like to download the other software you mentioned. I am very unhappy with the current program I'm attempting to use. I've even gone as far to contact them about lack of instructions/support - they could care less. They didn't even tell me there was an update out on the web to download. So much for them.

    Everyone I've talked to has other types of software. No one has ever used the one that came with my writer.

    The software you mentioned that comes with on-line manual sounds great. I'd like to try that.

    Do I attempt to uninstall the current program I'm using. Will it take important files with it that I will need.

    I'm going on the road again and can't afford to have my pc out of commission.

    Thanks in advance.

    Diane
     
  6. eddie5659

    eddie5659 Moderator Malware Specialist

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    Okay

    Well, it looks like its not one from the list, so that may explain why its not working.

    Hang on, did you say it came with this writer? Thats interesting, if so, we'll have to delve deeper.


    Just confirm that it came with the CDROM.

    eddie
     
  7. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    Eddie

    I'm confused. I followed your instructions to find out what CD ROM I had. I think it came with the Toshiba laptop that I use.

    The CD writer came with the software as below:

    Toshiba's CD-RW Station - USB Interface
    NTI CD-Maker 2000 Standard Software

    Does this clear up anything?

    Diane
     
  8. slipe

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    The NTI is decent software. I suggested an alternative only because of the manual. Sony was giving away their CD Extreme software for a while. The free version is still available -–nothing illegal about using it as Sony was passing it out free from their site.

    It should work fine on your burner without updates. You should not have to uninstall anything – in fact I strongly suggest you don’t.

    Sony CD Extreme download: http://151.199.159.198:8080/extreme.html

    Manual: http://sony.storagesupport.com/dlagreement.zulu?dlid=cdrw/downloads/cdx_manual102500.pdf
    If you right click on the submit button you can download the manual to your computer using the “save target as”.

    I don’t think Eddie has picked up yet that you have a LG burner that came with NTI software. NTI reports support for your LG 8083b burner. You need version 4.0.22.
     
  9. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    Slipe

    Thanks for the Sony website.

    But help me. I tried to download the Sony Extreme and my pc hung up and finally I'd get the page that says the website isn't available. I hit "refresh" and tried a couple of times. It must be down and I'll try later.

    But in the meantime, I downloaded the manual per your instructions "right clicking and saving as target" etc. It saved as a .pdf file. When I attempt to open it from my "temp" file where I saved it, it goes to Word for Windows and opens up to illegible wording.

    I'm sure I'm missing a step here or something. Can you enlighten me. I'd certainly appreciate it.

    Diane
     
  10. angel

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    To read the pdf file, download and install <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html">Adobe Acrobat Reader</a>.
     
  11. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    Slipe

    I already have Adobe Acrobat Reader on my pc. So now what do I do?


    I also checked out my version of software for NTI. It's 4.0.41.

    Also thanks to you I found the NTI website and perused it a little. I put in my 1041 error on their search and found that they say to use a different CD or slow down the writing speed.

    I'm using PNY Technology 1x-12x Compatible - 700MB/80 min. CDs. That's all I have. Is it worth going out and buying someone else's brand.

    Diane
     
  12. slipe

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    Temp is not a good place for your downloads. Most people make a “Download” folder so they can find stuff easily. In Windows Explorer select your C drive, then File>New?Folder and type in downlosd.

    Highlight the PDF file in the temp folder. Right click on it while holding the shift key. Select “Open with” Check the box to always open this type of file with this program, and browse for Acrobat Reader. PDF files will always open in Acrobat for you.

    Can’t believe the media would not record at 4X, but it wouldn’t hurt to get something approved by LG. There are different dye types and there might be one it doesn’t like too well.

    Did you get the Sony installed? It is really good software.

    For the NTI you might want to get the 4.0.22 and see if that works better since it is listed for your burner. Usually later revisions cover anything that previous ones did. Another option would be to try the 4.2.75.

    Is your firmware version 1.06? Device manager will tell you what version you have. Right click My Computer>Properties>Device manager. Double left click on CDROM and double click on your burner. The settings tab should tell you what firmware you are using.
     
  13. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    I must be doing something wrong or missing a step. I can't convert the .pdf file over.

    I went to Windows Explorer, selected "C", went to "File" and clicked on "New Folder" and typed in "Download. A new folder was created in "C".

    I then went to "My Computer" to my "Temp" folder where I had the download for the manual. I highlighed that file and did a right click while holding down the shift key. Your instructions said to select "Open with" and check box to always open this type of file. That's where I'm stuck. I wasn't given an option that like to choose. I had "View" and a bunch of others but nothing like what you referred to. Did I miss a step.


    What do you mean when you refer to LG?

    I did go into "My Computer" and found my firmware is version 1.05. Earlier in the day I went to the file you gave me that I could download to the 1.06 version. But there was a big warning on this website. From reading it, a novice such as myself should not attempt it. Can I stay with the 1.05 version?

    As mentioned earlier, I'm on the road as of Sunday and downloads etc., won't be available to me as I will be using a premium access number that costs me $.10 a minute.

    Before we go any further though let me thank you for your assistance so far. I learn something new each time.

    Diane
     
  14. slipe

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    I’m afraid I haven’t been much help. The NTI software identified your burner as a LG CD-RW CED-8083B. That would have been a LG brand CD writer with a model # CED-8083B. That burner is listed as supported by NTI. You obviously don’t have an LG burner or you wouldn’t have asked what LG meant.

    See if you can get a brand and model number from your CD writer.

    Had you stayed in Windows Explorer after creating the folder rather than exiting and opening My Computer you would have found the “send to” prompt.

    You really don’t want to go messing with firmware until you find out what brand and model CD writer you have. Good thing you didn’t try to update it. I haven’t the slightest idea why the software identified it as LG. That might be part of your problem.

    I’m trying to upload the Sony file to an online site so you can get it. I sent an e-mail to MiseryQ asking him why his download link isn’t working. The few online storage sites left are incredibly slow. I thought I had the Sony problem licked when MiseryQ agreed to put it up. We’ll see if we can’t get it up for you somewhere before Sunday.

    Check your e-mail.
     
  15. dianerowley

    dianerowley Thread Starter

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    Slipe

    Thanks for all your prompt replies.

    Easy ones first. My CD Writer is an EXP CD-RW Station Model CRW-940 - #840306. It says: Read 20, Write 4, Re-Write 4. So it doesn't sound like the writing speed if the problem as noted in the "error 1014" solution of slowing down the writing speed.

    Next, I was able to download the actual Sony file today. Now my next problem is it's a .zip file. How do I open it up? How do I execute it - i.e. move to Program file?

    I've also tried your solution to read the pdf file. I followed your instructions again staying in Windows Explorer and still did not get to the last portion to check mark a box "to always open this type of program" option. I'm getting a "View", "Customize Folder" etc. option.

    Bottomline, I've got the Sony file in a zip program and the manual in a pdf. mode. Any suggestions?

    Diane
     
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