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Core i7 7700K or AMD Ryzen 1800X for faster internet surfing

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by fantastik, Apr 20, 2017.

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  1. fantastik

    fantastik Thread Starter

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    Hello,
    My job unfortunately is almost all the day on the computer, so i need fastest PC for web browsing.
    I want no to spend more money for fastest internet, i need to decide to upgrade with Core i7 7700K or AMD Ryzen 1800X. I saw some comparisons that AMD is much better for multi threated apps, Intel has better clock speed and single core performance, but i am not specialist to say for a web browsing. Also my English is not perfect. I am from one country from eastern Europe. I am using usually 4-5 tabs in my browser and just need fastest cpu to load pages and 1 additional program warehouse software. Nothing more - no games, no other programs on my Windows 10. Core i7 latest 2011 socket is too expensive.
    Kind regards.
     
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  3. Triple6

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    For web surfing you won't notice a difference and you'd be wasting your money on either of those processors, a modern quad core Intel i5 series processor with at least 8GB of RAM would be more than adequate.

    What do you have now?
     
  4. fantastik

    fantastik Thread Starter

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    Hello,
    I have changed many CPU-s through the years and i can confirm that it is visible difference between Core i5 and i7 4790K - my current CPU. Between 8GB Ram and 32GB also big difference! Even the PSU, where i upgraded from 520W to 760W everything works powerful now. About saving money, may be there is not big difference into the performance between AMD 1700x and 1800X, but 1700X is about 100 GBP cheap. I just wonder are AMD 1700X/1800X faster than i7 7700K loading web pages?
     
  5. OverTallman

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    If you're already looking at high-end hardware like this then nope, I'd pay more attention to the service (100M/1000M?) from ISP instead, and the wireless card if using wireless network.

    Well unless you're having 100+ tabs opened at the same time, but seriously you really need a reality check if you have to go that far :D
     
  6. fantastik

    fantastik Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the answer. I am using ethernet 25 Mbit via my router
    TP-LINK TL-WR841N 300Mbps
    No matter of internet speed i will not downgrade to Core i5 etc.
    And yes i am ready to spend money for high performance computer with Samsung 960 EVO SSD and AM4 or Z270 motherboard, but i will spend nothing more to pay on the provider each month for fast internet!
    No WI-Fi for now. Can i improve internet speed by using some additional cards. Even 300 Mbit WI-Fi cards and serious router to use my incoming internet speed is limited to 25 Mbit.
    If you know some trick to improve the internet speed will be great news.
     
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  7. fantastik

    fantastik Thread Starter

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    Why i wonder which is the fastest and the surfing speed is not enough for me. After many web browsers changed a last few years i am using Opera browser - the best one as keyboard commands, shortcuts, functionality, super fast and secure. But i have many extensions like Translate Opera, Opera free VPN, AdBlock Fast... and they slow me down.
     
  8. flavallee

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    I agree with what Jacky said in post #4.
    If you're going to spend several hours a day browsing the internet, you really need an internet plan that's faster than 25 Mbps.
    You're willing to spend a lot of money to upgrade your computer to make it faster, but you're also willing to handicap it with a slow internet plan.
    That doesn't make good sense.

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  9. crjdriver

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    If you made me choose between the two, I would go intel. While I like amd, there have been problems with the am4 motherboards running ram at rated speed. This will most likely be worked out in later motherboards however today, I would go intel.

    With that said, I agree; you need a faster internet connection NOT a faster system. An i5 with 8~16gig of ram is more than enough for what you describe as the intended task.
     
  10. Triple6

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    Funny thing, I have a client with about 3 dozen internet connected computers and about the same in other devices such as phones, tablets, etc, and they use a 10Mbit/s fiber connection with pretty much no complaints for their main internet connection, VPN, and FTP services, plus a secondary 10Mbit/s MPLS circuit for a direct corporate connection. You don't need a super fast connection for having many tabs on the go unless you are downloading and uploading large amounts of data continuously. I have another client with about the same number of computers that was on a 10Mbit/s satellite connection at one site, and a 10 Mbit/s wireless connection at a second site and also didn't have much trouble until their new Citrix based software came online and they needed a lower latency connection and switched to cellular connection that's actually 2 x 5Mbit/s per site. And many other clients are on DSL connections under 7Mbit/s; quite a few of those usually complain a bit but even most of those are not too bad for most day to day work tasks.

    I still think you don't need the computer you think you do. Almost none of out clients use i7's most are i5' with many even being i3's, I use an i5-4460 or something like that with 16GB of RAM at work and have ten times what you have open; multiple remote sessions using various software, VPN connections, a password management portal, a ticketing portal, multiple tabs in multiple browsers open most of the time, Outlook and usually Excel, SQL Server, VMWare background services, Acronis services, three monitors, and usually some other stuff. Because of our slightly remote location we have two poor internet connections, a 10Mbit/s wireless connection and a 7Mbit/s DSL connection, there's a new 250Mbit/s fiber connection hanging from the pole but we are still waiting for it to be connected and made live. But my computer isn't slow with all of that, and browsing the internet isn't much of a problem, pain to download large files and sometimes a little slow for remote work when we have 5 staff members active but that's a much heavier use then you describe with a much slower and with likely higher latency connections.

    I suspect an infected or improperly setup or improperly maintained computer is what is affected your performance unless that warehouse program is extremely demanding but you haven't mentioned it too much or what it is. What program is it? What is open in each of your tabs? Are they running remote apps? How much data are they transferring? Are you using the internet connection by yourself or do you have other people using it too? Do you have malware/adware on your system? Are they abusing the internet connection?

    We use only sell Intel based computers and every one of our multi-national companies that we support are only supplied with Intel based computers and servers. Intel platforms seem to be more stable and until Ryzen considerably faster. It's also one of the reason Apple uses an Intel platform.

    Also power supplies don't make your computer faster.
     
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    yeah, had to reread that one myself
     
  12. Oddba11

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    It doesn't take a lot of hardware power to run a browser or "browse" the internet. Nor does it take a lot of bandwidth. Any slowness that you see would be in the form of latency (how fast you request goes from your computer, to the webserver, and the data then refreshes your browser). That latency is not dependent upon computer hardware speed, nor the bandwidth provided by your ISP. It doesn't matter if your ISP speed is 1MB or 1000MB, the latency through their network will be the same. I will add, that you listed "VPN". A VPN actually increases latency in most cases. In other words, your browsing will be slower.

    Computer hardware will make ZERO difference for casual browsing (ie: one browser open with maybe a couple of tabs on sites like techguy, amazon, and youtube). RAM could have an effect if you are running Win7+ with 4GB or less (you are likely to start hitting the swap file). HDD speed could have an effect if you are also performing other disk intensive tasks while browsing. CPU and gpu wouldn't matter at all, unless you are streaming HD feeds on Youtube with old/outdated hardware (HD specs typically list a 2ghz dual core of better). Power supply will either provide enough power for the system to function or not, it has NO effect on performance (running faster or slower).

    If you want/need a faster computer, that's fine. But "faster" browsing is not a valid reason.
     
  13. TonyB25

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    Definitely don't need a super fast powerful computer to browse the web, and 25Mbps is way more than enough to stream HD video without buffering. My low-end Chromebook does that without missing a beat.
     
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