Coronavirus spread to EU/USA

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That already happened Nov. 7, 2016 re dark ages return. LOL

Just left Doc office after check up - office filled with sick people. I expect I'll have the flu by next week, but not corona (I hope).
 

Johnny b

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I'm not so much afraid as I am concerned.

It would be interesting to see the take on vaccinations against coronavirus infection by the anti-vaxxers and Christian Science type cults.

I see the Health Ranger ( Mike Adams ) is still at it with his nonsense.
https://healthrangerreport.com/

And now I see Adams has aligned himself with Alex Jones ( :eek: :D :mad: )
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/new-coronavirus-facts-and-misinformation/

“It’s over for humanity,” Mike Adams declared the other day. The self-proclaimed Health Ranger and one of the internet’s more prolific conspiracy-mongers offered a dark prophecy. “There will only be lone survivors. The strategy must now shift. You can be a survivor. We can help you survive, the information here at Infowars and what I do.”

Infowars:
https://www.infowars.com/coronavirus-chinese-espionage-behind-wuhan-bioweapon/
Coronavirus: Chinese Espionage Behind Wuhan Bioweapon


Well.........hmmmm.......
 

zebanovich

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Those conspiracy theorists are complete idiots,
scaring people and telling nonsense just to increase traffic on their sites/media.

worth reading to have fun ofc.

I find WHO to be the first site to learn about these kinds of events:
https://www.who.int/
 
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Sad as it may be, corona may thin the herd of anti-vaccers.
 

zebanovich

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To develop a cure it can take up to 10 years or even more.
HIV dates almost a century back and still no cure.

except this cause is a killer virus, and already surpassed SARS.
 
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Several years ago went thru a bout of MRSA on my left knee I picked up on a job while in Miami. Left two large scars. Medical facilities treated me like I was radio active. Six or so months after infection cured, was in hospital for hernia operation - during pre-op the MRSA came up and I had a small pimple on top of my left ear. Operation was cancelled and I was asked to come back in a couple of weeks after testing. It was negative. With COPD, the last thing I need is the flu.
 

Johnny b

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Our leaders should have done more.
Agreed.
Both, initial denial of severity and de-funding of health agencies, have led to unnecessary deaths and greater damage to our economy.

Trump didn't cause the pandemic, but his initial actions and reactions did cause greater damage from the pandemic.

IMO, another troubling concern is that a large segment of our society denies the above and supports what (edit)little Trump has done.
Edit: and not done!!!

Trump’s Popularity Ticks Up During Coronavirus Crisis
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-popularity-ticks-up-during-coronavirus-crisis-11585252376
WASHINGTON—More Americans are taking a favorable view of President Trump’s leadership as he navigates the novel coronavirus pandemic, with some measures of support hitting or tying all-time highs.
(paywall)


President Trump's Job Approval Rating Up to 49%
https://news.gallup.com/poll/298313/president-trump-job-approval-rating.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- President Donald Trump may be enjoying a small rally in public support as the nation faces the COVID-19 pandemic. Forty-nine percent of U.S. adults, up from 44% earlier this month, approve of the job Trump is doing as president. Trump also had 49% job approval ratings -- the best of his presidency -- in late January and early February around the time of the Senate impeachment trial that resulted in his acquittal.



Radical Nationalism ( aka fascism ) has become acceptable to many US citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultranationalism
 
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I'm waiting with anticipation for the idiot to fire Birx and Fauci for making orange sphincter look bad - not that he needs any help.

The stimuli / bailout and the fact the Fed has shot it's wad of tools already, we best hope this gets controlled soon or we're in for some real hurt thanks to the bumbling twit. Powell made a yuge mistake when he dropped interest rates a half point leaving not much room to maneuver if economy doesn't respond to stimuli.

I have to make a quick run today to pick up some items ordered on line from Sam's Club for pick up yesterday. This will be my first venture into the wild since Friday 13th - not looking forward to the venture - from what I've heard from friends and relatives that have ventured out - people still rude and crazy. My trip to the grocery on 13th was filled with shame by the actions of others - again, makes me understand better how this idiot prez got elected.
 

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Trump and his minions through out our government have driven us into what is likely less than third world status in a matter of months , and all Trump responds is that he doesn't take responsibility, it's Obama's fault.
It wasn't.
Trump and his minions lied about a lot.
And now the US suffers for it.

The coronavirus test that wasn’t: How federal health officials misled state scientists and derailed the best chance at containment

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ched-rollout-derailed-containment/5080781002/
 
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Whew!! I feel so much better about orange scourage handling of the crisis since reading a report he is consulting with Arod (yes, the ex-Yankee) about what to do regarding COVID-19. The assurance is simply overwhelming!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

BTW - me venture into the wild yesterday for grocery's, on line Sam's order and Walmart meds wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Walmart pharmacy was quick in/out; Sam's a bit of a cluster - long line to get in, long wait to get order placed on line as only one person working pick up area; grocery store - absolutely no paper products available - people still stupid. Was impressed that grocer was enforcing social distancing as witnessed several people being told to back off by personnel whilst in queue - floors marked where to stand when checking out. Foods fairly good although veggies sparse - frozen or fresh - eggs short on selection. I'm good for another two weeks on staying home and away from the madding crowd of idiots.
 
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Trump and his minions through out our government have driven us into what is likely less than third world status in a matter of months , and all Trump responds is that he doesn't take responsibility, it's Obama's fault.
It wasn't.
Trump and his minions lied about a lot.
And now the US suffers for it.

The coronavirus test that wasn’t: How federal health officials misled state scientists and derailed the best chance at containment

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ched-rollout-derailed-containment/5080781002/
OK. I will agree that the Federal government did not provide accurate information on the turn around time for evaluating Covid-19 test kits and that Trump should have been more forthcoming about the severity of Covid-19; because, it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Covid-19 had the ability to spread rapidly! :mad: However, understanding the virulence of Covid-19 and to then state that the US suffers for it is a bit on the ludicrous side. Considering the length of time that this virus remains viable in the air and on hard surfaces, reality tells us that every country around the planet will have to deal with Covid-19, unless the Country was willing to shut down all travel from outside countries.

Oh but wait, the media said that the Covid-19 travel restrictions were a sign of President Trump's xenophobia! :rolleyes: Even USA today (your original source article) did a Pro-China government piece on this very topic before Covid-19 took an apparent hold within the US. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...reak-china-says-us-spreading-fear/4643737002/

As an FYI: Politifact addressed the ludicrous claims of lost time in February where test kits are concerned. ;)
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...falsely-says-trump-administration-rejected-w/
 

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OK. I will agree that the Federal government did not provide accurate information on the turn around time for evaluating Covid-19 test kits and that Trump should have been more forthcoming about the severity of Covid-19; because, it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Covid-19 had the ability to spread rapidly! :mad: However, understanding the virulence of Covid-19 and to then state that the US suffers for it is a bit on the ludicrous side. Considering the length of time that this virus remains viable in the air and on hard surfaces, reality tells us that every country around the planet will have to deal with Covid-19, unless the Country was willing to shut down all travel from outside countries.

Oh but wait, the media said that the Covid-19 travel restrictions were a sign of President Trump's xenophobia! :rolleyes: Even USA today (your original source article) did a Pro-China government piece on this very topic before Covid-19 took an apparent hold within the US. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...reak-china-says-us-spreading-fear/4643737002/

As an FYI: Politifact addressed the ludicrous claims of lost time in February where test kits are concerned. ;)
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...falsely-says-trump-administration-rejected-w/

Claiming lies as fact only defines your own character.

OK. I will agree that the Federal government did not provide accurate information on the turn around time for evaluating Covid-19 test kits and that Trump should have been more forthcoming about the severity of Covid-19; ....
You aren't agreeing to any element of Trump's handling of the situation.
Trump presented a series of lies, initially that obviously turned out to be incredibly false.


it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Covid-19 had the ability to spread rapidly!
And with that statement, you just labeled the entire support structure of Trump's support from the fools that worship him to the liars in the News media that backed his claims.
That would be Trumpites ( :p ) and the likes of Fox News et al .

However, understanding the virulence of Covid-19 and to then state that the US suffers for it is a bit on the ludicrous side.
And..... there you go with your apologist position as a Trump supporter.
With out the ability to do testing, nothing could be determined from early reports of infection....all the while Trump, his minions, his Trumpite supporters and the extremist elements of right wing news outlets proclaimed everything was under control, nothing to worry about.

As I posted, none of 'you' deserve forgiveness. What was done, the lying and misrepresentation was intentional. Most likely a re-elelection issue.


Oh but wait, the media said that the Covid-19 travel restrictions were a sign of President Trump's xenophobia!
Strange...I didn't post that, but I do remember when travel from China was stopped, travelfrom Europe wasn't. And If you bothered to actually investigate the results, you'd find that the genome of the east coast strain, which has the highest of all infection rates of the US, is the mutated version of COVID-19 that came by way of Europe ( originally from China of course ) not the version of the west coast virus.

Xenophobic? More like a dumb arse political decision to me.
But that's Trumptopia.
Trump is responsible for the out of control infection rate in New York.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...falsely-says-trump-administration-rejected-w/

Irrelevant to any discussion of a lack of test kits and Trump's lies and misinformation.
What Biden says and does is on Biden
What Trump does is not excused by what Biden claims.

Enough BS, Jack
I've told you in the past, you just aren't good at spin.
 

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