Creating a Limited User Account without having the create an Adminster Account first.

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Apr 3, 2007
Hi guys, just the title of the thread pretty much says it all.
want to create a really limited user account for the kids of the house. I already have a user account, and have tried to set up a limited one through control panel. But that asks me to first create an Administer Account, which i already have. So it would be pointless if i had two Administer Accounts showing up on the welcome screen.
Also i'm kind of a novice at this, but i am keen to learn. so help with privacy and parental control would be appreciated.

Feb 28, 2002
log off your user account and login as administrator,to get admin acc. ctrl_alt_del do it twice, if the admin one is not seen then login create the user account and edit the permissions
Aug 7, 2007
If it's saying you must create an Admin account, that means you are using the Built-in Administrator account. As soon as you create another account, it will no longer appear on the Welcome screen, so you won't have two Admin accounts appearing on the Welcome screen, but you won't have easy access to the Built-in account anymore.

While it's possible to create a limited account, and have the Built-in Administrator account appear on the Welcome screen, the built in account was not intended as a daily use account; if it gets corrupted, you have no way to log on to do repairs.

It would be best to create a new Admin account, then copy the Current account to the new one. This will require a third Admin account to do the copying from, which can be deleted once done.
After creating a 2nd account, to access the Built in Account, press CTRL+ALT+DEL twice at the Welcome screen (there cannot be any other accounts logged in)

If you want to continue using the Built-in Administrator account, here's the steps:
Add the Built-in Administrator account to the Welcome Screen:
Click Start | Run (or press WinKey+R)
Copy the text in the following code block and paste it into the Run box:
reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\SpecialAccounts\UserList" /V Administrator /T REG_DWORD /D 1 /F
A Command Prompt window will flash on screen and close immediately.

Create the new account as a Computer Administrator using the User Accounts control panel.
Once the account is created, right click My Computer, click Manage.
Expand System Tools | Local Users and Groups.
Click on the Users folder.
In the right pane, double click the new user you just created.
Click the Member of tab.
Highlight Administrators.
Click Remove.
This should leave only Users listed.

To create a new Admin account for daily use and copy the current one:
Using the User Profile Wizard to copy a profile

If you use Outlook or Outlook Express, this will NOT copy your emails. You will have to copy/move those files from the old profile to the new. This is because the Local Settings folder is not copied, and that's where Outlook and OE store their data files. You will most likely have to manually change the Store folder from within Outlook/OE to get it to use the new profile. So make sure you set Outlook/OE to NOT check mail when started, and not automatically check email at intervals, so you will have time to change the store location. If you can't access the account, just make sure you are disconnected from the Internet the first time you log into the new account, so you will have time to change the settings.

There may be other programs that also use the Local Settings\Application Data folder when they should be using Application Data instead.

The email account info should be copied, though you will have to re-enter your password. This is because each profile uses a different key to encrypt passwords.

Also, if you use file encryption, make sure you have exported your key, or you will not be able to access your encrypted folders.

If you have programs that were installed for just that user, they may have registry entries that this procedure will not change, which will require re-installing the program, or manually editing the registry.

You cannot be logged into the Account you are copying from or to, so you will need a third account that is a Computer Administrator to do the copying from.

  1. First create the new account and log into it once.
  2. Create a temp Computer Administrator account if needed.
  3. Log off all accounts and log into a 3rd account that is a Computer Administrator.
    To use the Administrator account:
    XP Home - Reboot to Safe Mode
    XP Pro - Press CTRL+ALT+DEL twice at the Welcome Screen, then type Administrator and enter the password.
  4. Enter the User Profile Wizard: Control Panel | System (or Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance System) | click the Advanced tab, click the Settings button under User Profiles.
  5. Highlight the user profile you want to copy and click Copy To.
  6. Click the Browse button, and navigate to the new user account folder.
    It will be under Documents and Settings with the same name as the user name.
  7. Click OK.
  8. Click the Change button, then the Advanced button, then click the Find Now button.
  9. Select the new user name from the list.
  10. You'll now click the OK button three times, then should get a warning that the folder already exists. Click Yes to continue.
  11. When the copy is complete, click OK to close the User Profile Wizard.
  12. Click OK to close System Properties.
Log into the new account and confirm your data is all there, then to save disk space you can log into the account you copied from and clear the Internet Cache, delete duplicate files in My Documents and Favorites, etc.
Or, you can just delete the User folder under Documents and Settings. The next time you log into the that account, it will be re-created as a brand new account.

Note that if you have shortcuts on your desktop or start menu that point to files in your profile (My Documents for example), the Target of the shortcut should be updated, but the Start In folder might not be updated, and will still point to the profile it was copied from. So if you delete that profile, the shortcut may stop working. In that case, just create a new shortcut, or edit the Start-in path.
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