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Ctrl-Alt-Delete and BSODs

Discussion in 'Earlier Versions of Windows' started by john1, Oct 19, 2003.

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  1. john1

    john1 Thread Starter

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    Hi,

    Ive been having hanging on shutdown,
    leading to blue screens on start-up.

    I have found that if i shut down using Ctrl-Alt-Delete,
    there are sometimes programs 'not responding' and if
    ignored, it seems that this can be one factor in my
    hanging on shutdown, and consequent blue screens.

    So now i deal with any programs 'not responding' before
    shutting down, either from 'Start' or from the Ctrl-
    Alt-Delete box. (close program box)

    This has led to me having no blue screens since i have
    been doing it this way, two days.

    I don't expect to have a blue-screen free time from now
    on, but it has made a difference.

    So i thought i would pass this on to anyone else,
    Regards, John :)
     
  2. bandit429

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    John you shouldnt have to do that,,,,,,what are the programs that are not responding?

    HI! :D
     
  3. john1

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    Hi Bandit,

    How are you ?

    I have had various programs 'not responding' in the close
    program box, even Mspaint on occasion.

    Since ive been shutting down via the close program box,
    i have had no trouble, the next program that shows as
    not responding, i will post its name here.

    It is true i dont have to do it this way, but i choose to as
    it is less trouble.

    Cheers, John :)
     
  4. bandit429

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    I understand what your saying,,,,I have seen that happen occasionally,,but not on a regular basis. It almost sounds like your resources are low when you shutdown,,but thats a guess of course. You are attempting to close the programs the normal way first? I Know you are but I need to ask.

    I am doing well thank you and, I hope your doing well, and I for one will be watching for your next post. Cheers! :)
     
  5. john1

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    Actually its a a little longer than i thought since my
    last blue screen. Its five days.
    The longest period up till now is about five, maybe six
    days, the norm being two or three.

    So Bandit, how would you know there is a program not
    responding, unless you check with the close program
    box first?

    Or do you mean that this should not cause a problem?

    John :)

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    taken from "Windows Uptime"
     

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    just seen your last post...

    yes, i have always (up to now) shut down in the normal way,
    that is from 'Start'.

    but,
    if you then get a hanging problem, you cant go back.
    and,
    i have tried looking at the close program box,
    and closing the proper way,
    with programs clocked as not responding.

    that seems to lead to hanging, and subsequent blue screens.

    So now i check first,
    close any manually if necessary,
    then shut down.

    Touch wood, ok so far. (five days)
     
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    Just a wild thought and you probably already checked but could it be a corrupt sound file?
     
  10. john1

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    Thank you Brindle,
    i have heard of that before.
    I don't use a shut-down sound.
    John :)
     
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    Logfile of HijackThis v1.92.1
    Scan saved at 02:03:50, on 20/10/03
    Platform: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v5.51 SP2 (5.51.4807.2300)

    R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page=http://forums.techguy.org/forumdisplay.php?forumid=20
    O3 - Toolbar: @msdxmLC.dll,[email protected],&Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSDXM.OCX
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ScanRegistry] C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SystemTray] SysTray.Exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ShutDown98] C:\WINDOWS\rundll.exe setupx.dll,InstallHinfSection ShutDown98 132 C:\WINDOWS\INF\shutdown.inf
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Tweak UI] RUNDLL32.EXE TWEAKUI.CPL,TweakMeUp
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [hf] C:\PROGRAM FILES\HIDEFOLDERS\HF.EXE /s
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [TClockEx] C:\PROGRAM FILES\TCLOCK\TCLOCKEX.EXE
    O4 - Startup: Cooky.bat.pif = C:\WINDOWS\COOKY.BAT
    O4 - Startup: ProgramFilesContents.pif = C:\PROGRA~1\CONTENTS.BAT
    O4 - Startup: Zone Alarm.lnk = C:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe
    O4 - Startup: Tray Man.lnk = C:\Program Files\TrayMan\TrayMan.exe
    O4 - Startup: Resource Meter.lnk = C:\WINDOWS\RSRCMTR.EXE
    O4 - Startup: Windows Uptime.lnk = C:\Program Files\Runtime\Windows Uptime.exe
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Open Frame in &New Window - C:\WINDOWS\WEB\frm2new.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &Highlight - C:\WINDOWS\WEB\highlight.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &Web Search - C:\WINDOWS\WEB\selsearch.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &Links List - C:\WINDOWS\WEB\urllist.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Zoom &In - C:\WINDOWS\WEB\zoomin.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Zoom O&ut - C:\WINDOWS\WEB\zoomout.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: I&mages List - C:\WINDOWS\Web\imglist.htm
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &Check Spelling - res://C:\PROGRAM FILES\IESPELL\IESPELL.DLL/SPELLCHECK.HTM
    O8 - Extra context menu item: &ieSpell Options - res://C:\PROGRAM FILES\IESPELL\IESPELL.DLL/SPELLOPTION.HTM
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console (HKLM)
    O9 - Extra button: ieSpell (HKLM)
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ieSpell (HKLM)
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ieSpell Options (HKLM)
    O12 - Plugin for .bcf: C:\PROGRA~1\INTERN~1\Plugins\NPBelv32.dll
    O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
    O16 - DPF: {0E8D0700-75DF-11D3-8B4A-0008C7450C4A} (DjVuCtl Class) - http://www.lizardtech.com/plugins/en_US/DjVuControl.cab
    O16 - DPF: {8522F9B3-38C5-4AA4-AE40-7401F1BBC851} - http://www.trinsic.org/download_file.exe
    O16 - DPF: {74D05D43-3236-11D4-BDCD-00C04F9A3B61} (HouseCall Control) - http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/d052c1d7d32ead/housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/xscan53.cab
     
  12. john1

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    i must confess,
    i dont know how to read that properly.
     
  13. brindle

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    I don't either John1 but it hadn't been mentioned as yet and sometimes we (I) overlook the obvious solution.
    Will be watching to see how its resolved.
     
  14. bandit429

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    I need about 30 minutes to look that over so hang tight. :)
     
  15. john1

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    These two were put on by me.

    C:\PROGRA~1\CONTENTS.BAT
    C:\WINDOWS\COOKY.BAT

    Contents.bat gives me a txt file list of all my programs.
    Cooky.bat puts a small handfull of cookies back into the
    cookies folder opon startup, to save me copying them in
    after running spider.

    Most of the others dont look out of place to me,
    but what do i know ? .... !
     
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