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  1. PritomD

    PritomD Thread Starter

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    Hey, I have questions concerning ibuypower and cyberpower.

    1. is it possible for ibuypower to *not* include a hard drive? Cause cyberpower will let you not, but ibuy makes you buy one, and I don't need one (I have one sitting around.)

    2. Should I get 512pc3200 ram (from 256) or 2800+xp(from 2500)

    3. should i stick with 350w or go to 480w for $79 extra (video card is gf4 mx 440, soundcard is onboard, i wont do heavy upgrading or anything...), and save 79$ (or get 512ram AND 2800 cpu)

    thx in advance
     
  2. PritomD

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    Here is a comparison, first is CyberPower PC I built, second is IBuyPower...

    CAS: [BIEGE ONLY] ATX MEDIUM TOWER CASE 350 WATT [+33]
    CASECOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    CASUPGRADE: ---Optional----
    CD: SONY 16X DVD-ROM [+38]
    CDCOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    CDRW: CD-RW 52X24X52 [+39]
    CDRWCOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    CPU: AMD Athlon™ XP 2800+ Processor [512K L2 CACHE] [+179]
    FAN: AMD CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
    FLASHMEDIA: --- Optional ---
    FLOPPY: --OPTIONAL--
    Gaming1: --- Optional ---
    Gaming2: --- Optional ---
    Gaming3: --- Optional ---
    Gaming4: --- Optional ---
    Gaming5: --- Optional ---
    HDD: ---Optional---
    HDD2: ---Optional---
    KEYBOARD: [WHITE] PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET KEYBOARD [+5]
    MEMORY: 512 MB (512MBx1) PC3200 400MHz DDR MEMORY [+98]
    MEMORYUPGRADE: --- Optional ---
    METER: --- Optional ---
    METERCOLOR: SILVER COLOR
    MODEM: --- Optional ---
    MOTHERBOARD: ASUS A7N8X nVidia nForce-2 ULTRA 400 FSB 8X AGP w/ USB 2.0 [+95]
    MOUSE: [WHITE] PS2 INTERNET MOUSE W/ WHEEL [+3]
    NETWORK: ---Optional---
    OS: WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL EDITION [+135]
    POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY
    RAID: ----- OPTIONAL REQUIRES (2) IDENTICAL HARD DRIVES-----
    RUSH: NO; SHIP OUT IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
    SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    SOFT1: ---Optional---
    SOFT2: ---Optional---
    SOUND: AC97 3D WAVE ON-BOARD SOUND CARD
    SPEAKERS: (BLACK) 120 WATT STEREO SPEAKERS [+5]
    SUPER_PAK: ---Optional----
    Subtotal1: (+673.00)
    Subtotal2: 673.00
    TEMP: ----- Optional [as shown] -----
    VIDEO: nVidia GeForce-4 MX440 64MB DDR AGP 8X EDITION w/ TV-OUT [+43]
    WIRELESSCARD: --- Optional ---
    WIRELESSPOINT: --- Optional ---
    ZIP: --- Optional ---
    ZIPCOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    $673


    BOARD: [ULTRA-400] ASUS A7N8X W/USB 2.0, LAN, AUDIO, 8X AGP MB (+ 39)
    CABLE: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    CAMERA: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    CARD_MEDIA: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    CARD_MEDIA_COLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    CAS: [Beige Color] STANDARD ATX MED-TOWER 320W CASE [NO WINDOW] (- 5)
    CASCOLOR: SILVER COLOR
    CAS_1: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    CAS_2: [SPECIAL!!!} UPGRADE TO 420 WATT POWER SUPPLY (+ 19)
    CAS_3: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    CAS_3_COLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    CAS_4: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    CAS_4_COLOR: SILVER COLOR
    CD: 16X DVD-ROM (+ 34)
    CDCOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    CDRW: 52x24x52 CD-RW DRIVE
    CDRWCOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    CPU: AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ QuantiSpeed CPU [512K L2 CACHE] (+ 414)
    EAR: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    FAN: Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink
    FDD: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    FDDCOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    HDD: 80 GB ULTRA ATA-100 7200 RPM HARD DRIVE
    HDD2: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    IEEE1394: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    KB: PS2 104 KEY WINDOWS 98 KEYBOARD
    MEMORY: [DDR400] 512 MB DUAL CHANNEL [256MB X2] PC3200 MEMORY (+ 49)
    MEMORY1: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    MODEM: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    MONITOR: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    MONITOR_LCD: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    MOUSE: PS2 INTERNET MOUSE
    NETWORK: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    NETWORK_1: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    NETWORK_2: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    OS: [NEW] MS WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL EDITION (+ 139)
    PNT: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    PNT_CABLE: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    RAID: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    RAID2: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    RUSH: NO; SHIP OUT IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
    SCANNER: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    SOFT1: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    SOFT2: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    SOFT3: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    SOUND: 3D STEREO SOUND ONBOARD
    SPEAKER: 120 WATTS PMPO 2 PCS STEREO SPEAKER SYSTEM
    Submit: Add to Cart
    Subtotal: 699.00
    Subtotal1: 699.00
    TV_TUNER: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    USB: STANDARD 2X USB 2.0
    VIDEO: ** 8X AGP ** NVIDIA GEFORCE-4 MX440 64MB VIDEO (+ 10)
    WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY + LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    ZIP: ----- OPTIONAL -----
    ZIPCOLOR: BEIGE COLOR
    $699

    Sorry if it's very cluttered

    I think the advatage in terms of a PC the Ibuypower has is the PSU, which I can upgrade manually....
     
  3. dzones

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    That totally depends on the vendor. You should have that option and may need to call them on the phone if the site does not allow it.

    I personally would opt for the extra memory. That will make a difference in your system performance. the difference between a 2500 and 2800 is very little, especially since there is no program that come close to needing the power of either cpu.

    do the ram upgrade if it is a matter of one or the other. you can buy a nice raidmax 420w power supply for less than that upgrade price.
    just a footnote. The video card they are using is a pretty substandard card considering the rest of the system. The geforce 4 mx 440 is not even rated nearly as well as the geforce 3 titanium series.
     
  4. StillLearnin'

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    The system with the 2500+ has 512MB DUAL CHANNEL memory which will blow away the 2800+ with one stick of 512MB memory. Go with 420w or bigger QUALITY power supply. Either the GF4 4200/$115 or for h*llish performance the ATI 9600Pro/$149. The MX 440 card is barely good enough for workstations; definitely not for DVD playback or gaming.
     
  5. compilerxp

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    Sub $35 power supplies aren't worth $1, no matter how many "wattages" they say they are.
     
  6. PritomD

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    The 2800 had an option for 512 Dual Channel for same price...still get the 2800+ option? Yea I plan on getting a better vid card, just not ATM (n)
     
  7. StillLearnin'

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    "just not ATM "

    I presume you meant ATI. If you don't get a 4200(which ARE available for under$100), there is NO reason NOT to go with ATI since their cards have been #1(in each class/price range) for the past 2 generations.
     
  8. PritomD

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    (at the moment actually). Anyways...

    about my topic and the companies, I went to this site that rates resellers (www.resellerratings.com) and it turns out that ibuypower had much higher ratings(8.80) then cyberpower(6.12), but I was still concerned that I didn't need a hard drive. I called up ibuypower, and they said that I could place my order on the phone, and that way I would not get a hard drive, and it would basically be a special order (since you can not select -Option- for a Harddrive at ibuypower.) I guess I will go ibuypower then, and yes I will upgrade video card. Thanks for your help
     
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