My grandsons computer his Aunt gave him has an icon problem. When you shut off the computer, then turn it back on later, the desktop icons and taskbar, start button all do not show up. You usually have to either do the on/off 3 or 4 times using a forced shutoff or do the f8 last best configured mode. No other mode works just the last best configuration. I do not have the computer with me as it will be an ongoing process over time. It is a dell computer (sorry I do not have that much info yet) and is not new. Any ideas to start with would be greatly appreciated. Did all security scans, SAS, MBAM, Spybot, Windows Security Suite, etc. Nothing shows up. Cleaned all temp files, removed unwanted items, checked off all useless items on Startup menu thinking that might be the problem, too much on startup but to no avail. Still no Icons unless you play with it. Checked drivers and Hardware manager, nothing. Any ideas to start with would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.