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Direct Cable Connection between XP and 2000

Discussion in 'Networking' started by jmooner, Nov 8, 2007.

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  1. jmooner

    jmooner Thread Starter

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    Hello, I am creating a peer-to-peer network (not the illegal kind, just one computer connected directly to another via crossover cable.) I can easily do that with XP to XP, but the snag is, one of the computers is a Windows 2000. I cannot convince my dad to upgrade, so here i sit with a problem. I know I have to set up DCC and NetBuei, and I have NetBuei set up, but how do I set up DCC? Also, are there any other important things to make note of when networking them? I have set them both up with the same work group, and the XP detects connection, but can't see the 2000, whereas the 2000 doesn't detect anything. Thanks in advance to whomever helps me out!!
    -Jeff
     
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    The following will set up a Microsoft Workgroup for File and Printer Sharing assuming the PCs are already networked via router, ad-hoc wireless or Ethernet (directly or using switch or hub).

    In Network and Dial-up Connections (Win 2k Pro) or Network Connections (XP) right click on your connection and select ‘Properties.’ If not already there, install or add a check mark for “Client for Microsoft Networks, “File and Printer sharing …” and “Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).”

    Right click on My Computer and on the Computer Name tab make sure you have a unique computer name and the workgroup name that you want to use for all computers. Change if necessary.

    Restart the PC.

    You must uninstall or properly configure any 3rd party firewalls on each machine.

    If using the XP SP2 firewall: Control Panel – Windows Firewall – on the General tab it should be “On” and on the Exceptions tab “File and Printer Sharing” should be selected.

    The Shared Documents folder is automatically shared. Any other folders or printers you want to share, just right click on them and sharing ... . When sharing a printer, accept the offer to load other drivers if your other PCs have different Operating System(s).

    When you first go into My Network Places there will be nothing there. The first time you click on 'View Workgroup computers' will probably result in great disappointment. It takes awhile (20 minutes or so) before all the computers in the workgroup get up-to-date and accurate lists of the other computers. Often you can speed up this process via Search for other computers.

    When computers show up in My Network Places, double click on one to see its shares. If that includes a printer, you can right click on the printer to connect to it.
     
  3. jmooner

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    I have done all of that already, the problem actually lies within DCC (Direct Cable Connection) so I was wondering how to set up DCC on Windows 2k. I need DCC for 2k because for a 2k to connect to an XP, the 2k machines wants to be the "boss." The DCC simply makes it "act" as the boss even tho the xp machine might be the host. Thank you for your prompt response!
     
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    I don't know anything about networking with DCC and NetBuei. When you said "crossover cable" I blindly assumed cross-over ethernet cable. Sorry.
     
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    No, you were correct in your crossover ethernet cable assumption. The protocols between 2000 and XP are just so different that you need DCC and NetBuei to translate the signals. But thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate the helpful members here at TSG
     
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    No, the protocols between 2K and XP are NOT different, and you don't need DCC and NETBEUI to connect the two.

    All you need is a crossover Ethernet cable, and the standard Windows networking will do the trick just fine.
     
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    "The protocols between 2000 and XP are just so different that you need DCC and NetBuei to translate the signals."

    TCP/IP is the same on all Windows versions and is sufficient for file and printer sharing. My very first home network was with a Win 2k Pro and a XP Home PC; set up as above with no problems. And with no knowledge or use of DCC and NetBuei.
     
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    I can switch to Windows Explorer here and browse the 2K computer over in the corner, no NETBEUI in sight. :)
     
  9. jmooner

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    hm, interesting on both parts, but DCC apparently comes already installed on 2k, but still netbuei is required. Every p2p setup site i have been to says netbuei is required but i have that. but could one of you guys please give me a step by step? that would be most excellent because nothing i can do will work.
     
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    "but could one of you guys please give me a step by step?"

    Step 1. Forget NETBEUI.

    Step 2. Forget DCC.

    Step 3. See post #2 (and pay particular attention to "You must uninstall or properly configure any 3rd party firewalls on each machine.").

    If not working then do the following tests.

    To open a Command Window: Start - Run – cmd (command in 98SE) - OK

    To determine a computer's IP address: open a Command Window and type
    ipconfig /all

    Now for some troubleshooting:

    1. On each PC open a Command window and type
    ping IPofOther (where IPofOther is the IP address of the other PC)

    Do you get Replies, or do you get packets lost?

    If you got Replies,

    2. Do the same ping except use the Computer Name of the other computer:
    ping NameOfOtherPC

    Replies or lost packets?

    If you got Replies to either or both,

    3. Then
    Start - Run - \\IPofOther - OK

    With luck after about a minute you should get an explorer window showing the other PC's shares. If not, what is the error message?
     
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    You don't know how many thanks I can extend your way...you have helped me a ton. When I get to my parents house, i will definitely try it out.

    -Jeff

    p.s. numbers 1 and 2 were my fav :p!
     
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    Turn off any firewalls for debugging. If the firewall is the problem, you'll have to configure it to allow access to "trusted zone" addresses. Note that some firewalls must be completely uninstalled to stop them from affecting your networking.

    Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt for the following commands.

    PING each remote computer by IP address, and if successful, PING by name. Open a command prompt as described above and type.

    PING <ip address>
    or
    PING <computer name>

    Where:
    <ip address> - is the x.x.x.x IP address
    <computer name> - is the computer name

    A failure to PING is almost always a firewall configuration issue. Any failure to PING needs to be corrected before you go any farther.

    Note: You can obtain the IP address and computer name of a computer by opening a command prompt (DOS window) and typing IPCONFIG /ALL. This should work for any Windows version. The IPCONFIG /ALL display will provide a wealth of useful information for debugging your network connection.

    Check your Services are Started on all PCs:
    • Computer Browser
    • DHCP Client
    • DNS Client
    • Network Location Awareness
    • Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
    • Server
    • TCP/IP Netbios helper
    • Workstation

    Note: You can check the services in Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services.

    All of these services should be started, and their startup type should be automatic.

    All computers should be in the same workgroup for computer browsing to function properly. File & Print Sharing has to be enabled on any computer you wish to share files or printers from. You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.

    If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Neighborhood, make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login.

    While the default NetBIOS setting is correct for normal network configurations, it's possible for it to be altered, and it costs nothing to make sure it's correct. NETBIOS over TCP/IP must be enabled for normal network browsing.
     
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