Does Seagate FreeAgent 250gb overwrite the current data with the new data?

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bobby735

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I want to back up my desktop Dell Win XP hard drive personal data to a Seagate FreeAgent Go 320GB external drive. I would like to know, When I backup data this time, will it overwrite the data from a previous file backup? Will it "append"(?) or add to(?) the first data backup or will I loose that data?

In other words, does the Seagate FreeAgent Backup overwrite the current data with the new data?

I tried many searches without results. (as well as different ways of asking the same question :D )
Thanks for your time.





OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 3, 32 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3
Processor Count: 2
RAM: 1022 Mb
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Hard Drives: C: Total - 152578 MB, Free - 86032 MB; G: Total - 305242 MB, Free - 243478 MB;
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bobby735

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I believe the choice is yours when you set up the back-up.
Dave, thanks for your advice.

But actually that is the problem I have. I can not find an option to overwrite or not. Not anywhere during the backup setup or in the instructions.
If I was told exactly where it says what to click on, on what page, etc. would be a big help.
Also, I copy/paste the section of the instrustion manual on "Backing Up". I hope you can point out to me where I am missing the explanation on how not to overwrite data.

Thank you for your time, Robert .

Below are the instructions from, " Seagate Manager User Guide for Use With Your FreeAgent™ Drive " pp 12-18:
Backing Up and Restoring Folders and Files:
With Seagate Manager, you can back up valuable files to your FreeAgent drive.
Each file you choose to back up from your computer is copied to your drive. If you ever lose
one of the original files on your computer, you can easily restore it from the backup version.
For increased data security, you can back up your files to an encrypted folder on your drive.
Folder encryption uses AES 256-bit encryption to ensure your private files can’t be accessed
without your encryption password.

Backup Features
The Seagate Manager Backup features allow you to:
• Schedule the backup of selected folders
• Edit backup settings
• Launch an immediate file backup
• Use the same backup plan for multiple drives
• Restore backed-up files
• Back up your files to an encrypted folder
After the initial backup, Seagate Manager backs up changed files in designated folders
according to a schedule you set, or when you click Back Up Now in the Backup window.
Note: The Seagate Manager backup feature does not back up locked files.

Backup Plans for Your Drive
You can create one Backup Plan for each drive connected to your computer. You can select
either of two types of Backup Plans:
• Simple Backup: Pre-configured to back up your XP My Documents folder or your
Vista Personal Folder daily at 10:00 p.m.
— OR —
• Custom Backup: You select the folders to be backed up and set a backup
destination and schedule.
— OR —
• Drive Rotation: You can use the same backup plan with two or more drives.

Creating a Backup Plan
Seagate Manager provides several options for creating a backup plan:
• Using Simple Backup
• Creating a Custom Backup
• Drive Rotation (for more than one drive)

Using Simple Backup
Use Simple Backup to back up your XP My Documents folder or your Vista Personal Folder
daily at 10 p.m.
To use Simple Backup:
Step 1: Click My Drives in the Command panel.
The My Drives page opens.
Step 2: Select the drive to which you want to back up.
Step 3: Click Backup in the Command panel.
The Backup window opens.
Step 4: Click Simple Backup.
A Simple Backup Confirmation window confirms that you’ve selected Simple
Backup and asks you to name this Backup Plan.
Step 5: Enter a name for your Backup Plan and click OK.
Scheduled backup is turned on. The Backup window now offers the options of
editing your backup settings, restoring backed-up files and deleting backup plans.
It also describes your Backup Plan.

Creating a Custom Backup
To select specific folders and a schedule for backup to your drive:
Step 1: Click My Drives in the Command panel.
The My Drives page opens.
Step 2: Select the drive to which you want to back up.
Step 3: Click Backup in the Command panel.
The Backup window opens.
Step 4: In the Backup window, click Custom Backup.
The Backup Folder Selection window opens.
Step 5: Name your Backup Plan, select the folders to be backed up, and click Next.
The Backup File Types window opens.
Step 6: Select the types of files you want to back up:
• All File Types
• Photos, Music, Videos, Documents
• Custom
Select specific file types to include or exclude for backup:
— To back up only a few of the available file types:
1. Select Include these file types.
2. Select each file type you do want to back up and click Add to move it to the
Include list.
— To back up most of the available file types,
1. Select Exclude these file types.
2. Select each file type you don’t want to back up and click Add to move it to
the Exclude list.
Note: File extensions are the suffix characters to the right of a file name that define the file
format.
Step 7: Click Next.
The Backup Schedule window opens.
Step 8: Select the days and time you want to back up your folders.
You have the option of backing up your files to an encrypted folder.
Note: If you do not wish to encrypt your backup, skip to step 11.
Step 9: To encrypt your backup, click Enable Encryption.
• If you do not have an encrypted folder or you have one but have not created a
password for it yet, the Folder Encryption window opens. Go to step 10.
• If you already have an encrypted folder and it is currently open, a checkmark
will appear in the Enable Encryption checkbox. Go to step 11.
Step 10: Create a password, re-type that password and click OK.
Step 11: Click Finish.
The Backup window now displays the details of your backup and Scheduled
Backup is turned on.

Drive Rotation
With Drive Rotation, you can use one backup plan with multiple drives. This is useful if you
have files that are so important that you want to give yourself the added security of backing
them up to more than one drive.
Step 1: Connect the first drive to which you want to back up your files.
Step 2: Click My Drives in the command panel.
The My Drives page opens.
Step 3: Select your drive.
Step 4: Click Backup in the command panel.
The Backup window opens.
Step 5: Create a backup plan for this drive (if you haven’t done so already).
This backup plan can be either a simple or custom backup plan.
Step 6: Connect your second drive.
Step 7: Click My Drives in the command panel.
The My Drives page opens.
Step 8: Select the second drive.
Step 9: Click Backup in the command panel.
The Backup window opens.
Step 10: Click Drive Rotation.
Seagate Manager User Guide for Use With Your FreeAgent™ Drive 16
Backing Up and Restoring Folders and Files Managing Backup Settings
The Backup Drive Rotation window opens.
Step 11: Select the Backup Plan you want to use with your second drive.
Step 12: Click OK.
The Backup window opens, displaying the plan you selected as the Active Plan
and indicating Scheduled Backup is turned on.
You can share your backup plan additional drives by repeating steps 6 - 12, if you
wish.
Step 13: Each time backup takes place, your files will be backed up to as many of the
drives with which you have shared your backup plan as are connected at that time.
If only one of the drives is connected, then your files will backed up to only that
drive. If all of the drives are connected, then your files will be backed up to all of
them.

Managing Backup Settings
Once you create a backup plan, the Backup window displays:
• The active backup plan
• Which file types will be backed up
• The time of the backup
• The Scheduled Backup (On/Off) setting

Editing Backup Settings
To edit the settings of a Backup Plan for your drive:
Step 1: Click My Drives in the Command panel.
The My Drives page opens.
Step 2: Select your drive.
Step 3: Click Backup in the Command panel.
The Backup window opens.
Step 4: In the Backup window, click Edit Backup Settings.
The Backup Folder Selection window displays your current Backup Plan name
and folder selection:
Step 5: Edit the Backup Plan Name and/or the folder selection(s) and click Next.
The Backup File Types window displays your current selections.
Step 6: Edit the types of files to be backed up and click Next.
Backing Up and Restoring Folders and Files Managing Backup Settings
Note: If you previously had encryption enabled, it remains enabled (displaying a checkmark).
You cannot edit the encryption settings for your backup. The only way to enable or disable
encryption for a backup is to do it when you create the backup plan.
Step 7: Edit the days and/or time you want to back up your folders.
If this drive previously participated in Drive Rotation (sharing a backup plan with
another drive), the Next button is displayed. If not, the Finish button is displayed.
Step 8: Click Next or Finish.
If you clicked Finish:
The Backup window now displays the new details of your backup and Scheduled
Backup is turned on. You have completed editing of your backup settings.
If you clicked Next:
The Backup Options window opens, showing a list of drives to which this plan
backs up. Go to the next step.
Step 9: Uncheck any drive in the list to remove that drive from this backup plan and click
Finish.

Deleting a Backup Plan
You can delete the Backup Plan for any drive on which you’ve created one, even if the drive
is not connected to your computer.
To delete a Backup Plan for your drive:
Step 1: Click Backup in the Command panel.
The Backup window opens.
Step 2: In the Backup window, click Delete Backup Plans.
The Delete Backup Plans window opens.
Listed is the Backup Plan for each drive.
Step 3: Select the Backup Plan you want to delete by clicking its checkbox and click
Delete.
The selected backup plan is deleted. (Your backed up files are NOT deleted.)

Using Scheduled Backup
Use Scheduled Backup to back up changed files to your drive on the days and time you set.
The Scheduled Backup On/Off switch enables or disables the backup plan schedule.
By default, Scheduled Backup is turned on.
If Scheduled Backup is missed:
• because the computer is off, it automatically runs the next time the computer is
booted.
• because the drive is not connected, it automatically runs the next time the drive is
connected.

Turning Off Scheduled Backup
To turn off Scheduled Backup:
• In the Backup window, click the Scheduled Backup Off button.

Backing Up Manually
You can back up files manually whenever you like, whether Scheduled Backup is on or off or
whether Seagate Manager is open or not.
To launch a manual backup to your drive:
• Click Back Up Now in the lower right corner of the Backup window.
— OR —
• Select Back Up Now from the Seagate Status icon menu:
The Seagate Status icon turns yellow and the backup takes place in the background.
When the backup is complete, the icon turns green.
To get the current information about your backup, move your mouse over the Seagate Status
icon. A message appears with the information about your backup.

Viewing the Backup Log
The Backup Log is a text-based report of your backup history.
To view the Backup Log for your drive:
Click View Backup Log in the Backup window of Seagate Manager.
— OR —
Step 1: Click the Seagate Status icon in the Taskbar notification area to display the
Seagate Status menu.
Step 2: Click View Backup Log to open a text file showing the history of your system
backups.

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If you save a new backup in a different folder, you will have both. If the old backup is no longer needed, just delete it from the drive before making the new one (though "best practice" would actually dictate that you make the new one first so that there is never any time period when you have no backup at all - if you have the space, making the new one first is advisable).
 

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It looks to me as though Freeagent is, by default an incremental backup.
This means it only takes a full copy the first time you run it. After that it only backs up the data that has changed. Obviously you should be able to change this, but without having it in front of me, I cannot say for sure.
Incremental backups do make for faster backups, but recovery may take longer and you do need all the backups from and including the last Full backup to be available.
For my business, I did a Full backup once a week and incremental ones every day. I kept four weeks of data on four different drives, rotating the use of the drives. Plus I would always do a separate full backup prior to any major hardware or software changes.
 

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If you save a new backup in a different folder, you will have both. If the old backup is no longer needed, just delete it from the drive before making the new one (though "best practice" would actually dictate that you make the new one first so that there is never any time period when you have no backup at all - if you have the space, making the new one first is advisable).
I appreciate your information.
 

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Just a word of advise NO backup is worth anything until you validate your ability to restore the backup. We see many many threads regarding problems restoring a backup.

FWIW I use and recommend acronis true image for making backups.
 

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It looks to me as though Freeagent is, by default an incremental backup.
This means it only takes a full copy the first time you run it. After that it only backs up the data that has changed. Obviously you should be able to change this, but without having it in front of me, I cannot say for sure.
Incremental backups do make for faster backups, but recovery may take longer and you do need all the backups from and including the last Full backup to be available.
For my business, I did a Full backup once a week and incremental ones every day. I kept four weeks of data on four different drives, rotating the use of the drives. Plus I would always do a separate full backup prior to any major hardware or software changes.
Dave, when you say, "After that it only backs up the data that has changed", do you mean that the first time data in the "full copy the first time you run it" would be overwritten or that it would create a separate backup?
I attached photos of each window that opens in Seagate Backup Mananger program.
Thank you for your time.
Robert
 

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The way you appear to have it set up:
The first time you run (and I hope every so often) it does a full back up to the attached drive. After that it just effectively makes a note of the changes to that full copy. That is what "incremental backup" means.
It will not overwrite anything on the backup disk unless you ask it to.
 

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One last note, I do not keep my external drive "ON" all the time.
I only connect to my PC to make a backup every month or so. I say this in case it affects any information that has been provided me. If not, no need to reply.

I thank everyone, DaveBurnett (Dave), Elvandil and crjdriver for all your valuable input with my query.
I will mark this resolved in 3 days if I have no more replies.
Bobby
 

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Just a word of advise NO backup is worth anything until you validate your ability to restore the backup. We see many many threads regarding problems restoring a backup.

FWIW I use and recommend acronis true image for making backups.
crjdriver
Thank you. I agree and will check my knowledge on that .
 
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