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Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by montemag, Jul 18, 2018.

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  1. montemag

    montemag Thread Starter

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    hello to all,
    I have never had any problem with my Vista system- so please letsnot go there- it works absolutely fine for many many years. But recently- it seems that when I try to dowload a document- it opens the new page but a blank page appears- for example- I go onto my site where I get my paystub that is direct deposited- it says to download paystub-- I click on it and then another page opens- and the circle appears for a while then a blank page appears?? This never happendd before-- usuaully a page appears showing the printer button and the number of the page you ae on and the rotate picture button and on the lower right is the zoom button etc etc-- why is this all of a sudden not working- what is preventing me from being to download these items as before. Any advie would be much appreciated.
     
  2. TerryNet

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    Assuming this occurs when using a browser, what browsers have you tried?
     
  3. montemag

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    I am attaching the pics of part of the page that this works on my wifes computer--- IMG_6079.JPG IMG_6078.JPG
    Wow- thank you-- I just used Mozilla firefox to try this and it worked. I always Google Chrome- it works well for everything- but there is always a bar at the top that says google chrome is out of date and no longer will be able to do updates and to download a newer version which I cannot due to the fact that I am using Vista Home Premium. So I guess I will be using firefox for such tasks in the future- I thank you.. I will only change my system when my computer gives out-- because it really does work fine everything I need it for- so for the little glithces now and then so be it-- but thank you for the advice- you have been really helpful
     

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    montemag:

    Just for your information.

    The Internet Explorer and Google Chrome browsers no longer support Windows Vista.

    The Mozilla Firefox 52.9.0 ESR browser (most current supported version) will be dropping support for Windows Vista in September 2018.

    You really need to move on to Windows 7 or Windows 10, especially if you're doing on-line banking, credit card purchases, submitting sensitive information, etc..

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  5. montemag

    montemag Thread Starter

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    thank you for your advice--- so let me ask you- if I want to move everything over from this computer to my next new one- please advise exactly how I do this-- I do a weekly backup every wednesday that goes to my external hard drive-- so how hard or difficult would it be to move my info over .
     
  6. TerryNet

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    Makes sense to me! You may want to think ahead about what you want when this PC gives out. You can still get Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 if you search a bit for them; but mostly you'll find Windows 10 pushed on you. If Vista stops working well enough for you before the hardware quits you can consider a free Linux distribution (OS).


    You're welcome. :)


    Depends on how you do the backup. If you are saving your data by simply copying it or using something like Macrium Reflect Free you should have no trouble copying the data to a new system. If you are using some Microsoft program I have no idea.
     
  7. montemag

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    you know i am still working off VISTA-- my computer works great and all that- NO PROBLEMS-- but I keep getting told that it is dangerous to use MOZILLA or CHROME - because there is NO MORE SUPPORT for them - and if I am doing BANKING online which I DO- that I could be in danger ?????? HUH???? Is this true-- remember I have NORTON ANTI VIRUS etc etc--- I was told that I should update to Windows 7???? I do not know how- first of all-- and i heard that Windows 7 is not so great???? OR I was told to get LINUX--- but what version and how to i get it and can I have it on the same system as my windows??? and if so- how does the computer KNOW which operating system to boot into???????
    Or lastly to buy a new computer??? But then i am not sure how to load or TRANSFER all my info from this computer to a new one- REMEMBER that I do my backups onto my external J hard drive---??? so how would that be done to get all that info to a new computer??
    what do you think-- like I said- my computer works REALLY WELL_ boots up fast- responds fast- never crashes- and just works well overall- do you think I am in any DANGER by using either of those 2 browsers when doing financial things because I am using the outdated software??? Please give me your best shot on this---and hey crazy man-- be novice-like- tell me in easy terms-- LOL-- i appreciate it.....
    P.S. If my browsers still work and I can log onto my banking site to pay my bills thru my bank- what is the problem-- is it that other people(hackers) will have an easier time breaking into my system??? But isn't that what Norton is for??? I am a little confused
    So please try to answer each of my concerns above- one by one with a small explanation if you would.... Thank you
     
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    Above you mentioned that if I do my backup through a microsoft program then you are not sure how to move that backup to a new computer-- I just checked my backup status- and it was las done on 07/15/2018 and the next one is due to be done on 07/22/2018- every week now below that the program says this -- restore files folders from a backup---so wouldn't it be that easy to just click that link and it would then move the info I highlight to wherever I want it to be moved?
     
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    I'm not one of those fear mongers who scream that you need to buy the latest Microsoft and Norton and McAfee, etc., stuff to be "safe." If you've been careful enough to not get burned you will, in my opinion, not get burned as long as you continue exercising the same care.

    Personally, I liked (the test version of) Windows 7 so much more than Vista that one the first day possible I pre-ordered Windows 7 from Best Buy and updated that fall as soon as it arrived. But the chances of you now finding a genuine and legitimate Windows 7 is very close to nil. And we won't help with pirated copies.

    I can't tell you what Linux distro to get, as I don't know which ones will work well on your particular computer nor which ones will appeal to you. Any that you try you can do so as a "Live CD," which means that you boot from the CD or DVD or USB flash drive and do not need to install it. This is a great way to test before making any changes to your computer. Some people run (often multiple versions) Linux distros this way all the time (never installing). If and when you do install you could replace the current OS, or install it in a different partition (which Microsoft confusingly calls "drive") and dual boot--when you boot the system you can choose which of multiple systems to use for that session. My suggestion is to first check out Lubuntu, but everybody you ask will have a different suggestion.
     
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    There are multiple ways to get data from one ("old") computer to another ("new") one.

    The simplest in concept and in practice is to copy the data onto removable media (CD, DVD, USB flash drive, external hard drive, etc.) and then copy from that media to the new computer. I still do it this way for data that doesn't change often. These days you can also use "the cloud" as well as removable media.

    I use the previously mentioned Macrium Reflect Free to make monthly backups of my systems and data onto an external hard drive. If necessary I could run the same program on a different computer to fetch some or all my data. But that only works if the different computer is running Windows.
     
  11. montemag

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    you do know that all this is right over my novice head--- I am very careful - but it is the hackers of this world that screw all that up-- but as you said I am careful and I have a humongous password- that I believe can never be broken- hopefully-- so as long as my Vista works and I can do what I need to do- I will continue to do so. And when it does not- I will purcahse a tower only- and keep my present speakers and monitor to save some money and that will be that---but I do thank you for all your time.
     
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    You're welcome. :)
     
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    It isn't so much a question of a hacker directly attacking you because you are using vista ( or XP) with lower security than a more modern OS like W7 /W8.1 or W10 .
    BUT almost all secure websites, like banking, credit cards, employment, Government sites, Tax sites etc and even Facebook, Twitter & youtube etc will very soon if they haven't already block ALL users using Vista & XP because those OS do not and cannot be updates to have a secure connection between your computer & the website.

    What happens now is that a secure system uses the highest level of encryption to connect, but older browsers & OS use a lower level of encryption and the website automatically downgrades the security to cope with those browsers.
    This then allows an attacker to intercept a highly secure connection & send a message saying "I can't connect securely, please connect me insecurely" and then he can use that lower security to attack the website or intercept the communication between the site & other users and steal passwords, logins etc.

    That is why the downgrade ability is being stopped and why XP & Vista users are being stopped and warned about security
    It doesn't matter how humongous your password is when the hacker can read it while it is being sent to the website / bank in question easily.
     
  14. montemag

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    wow- now that makes sense even to me-- I appreciate your help-- i guess I will have to use my wifes computer that runs on windows 10---to do all of my banking
     
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    dvk01 Moderator Malware Specialist

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    That is definitely a safer thing to do. While the convenience of using an older OS that we like & feel comfortable with is important, in today's modern connected world we need to think of security & privacy as the first thing rather than the last thing.
     
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