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Hi All,
Recently from the net I downloaded NVIDIA Windows 95/98/ME Display Drivers to a file on my D drive. In it was Win9x_21.81 which is an .exe. So now I clicked on that and preceded to load my drivers. Wow, what a mess. It took a whole day to get my PC working again. Ok so maybe I did something wrong. I didn't use a download accelerator, and I turned off Norton. Let's see, I even closed all programs running in the background. I loaded the drivers again. More of the same problems. Couldn't get into windows without going to safe mode. Only could get 16 colors and every time I did get to windows it wanted me to reload Video.
Ok so what did I do wrong. Another half a day to get back running right again. So being Pa DUTCH and hardheaded I tried again. Same thing. Fixed the problem again and had to install old drivers. So I go to the folder where the new drivers are. I know from loading this Nvidia Riva Tnt so many times before that there are only about 5 or 6 DLL'S, DRV'S and whatever from the install disk. The file I loaded from the net has 85 things in it. 19 of them are help topics but the rest have to do with DLL's and whatnot.
No the strange thing is when I click on the exe to load the new drivers I can see a whole bunch of stuff being loaded. It must be pumping everything from the file into my PC. It seems that this file is for a number of sets of drivers and just can't seem to figure out which one to load so it does them all. Question is, how do I make it load the right ones? Oh, I have tried every way to load these drivers. Add new hardware, Start run. Device Manager Display update drivers and the one at startup , windows has found new hardware. HELP!!!
Windows 98, Gateway , Nvidia Riva TNT
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Hiya

I take it you got these from the NVIDIA actual site? Now, if you're expereincing problems, I wonder if anyone else is. There are quite a few here who have a card from them, and the downlaod seems to be a kind of generic drive.

If you give me a while, I'll dig deeper into this. Also, someone else may know an answer first.

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From Gateway site and also from a link on here the other day. Think it was a windows site but don't remember the link.
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Well, I think they have changed their site. I went in there a while back and now I can't find the download page. Just keep getting the Detonator™ XP v23.11.

The major hint is not to run virus software when installing, so safeMode it is.

Ah, it is the same driver, just dosen't list the supported cards. The cards are here:

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=products_supported_win

I think your's is there, but just confirm. If so, have a look here and see if thats what you downloaded:

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=windows9x

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Hi Eddie,
Well I have the TNT ant that is listed there. Problem is when it loads the drivers I can see it is loading every driver in the file. Which is for every video card listed there. Each DLL and vxd that comes with the download. I can see then as it is loading them. This is where I am getting the conflict. I do shut down Norton and every other program while loading them so nothing running to corrupt them. Also for some reason Safe Mode does not find my card and will not let me load the drivers. I have also downloaded the updated drivers straight from Gateway and have the same problem. And I get them by running live update for Gateway. Same problem trying to update
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Hiya

You said:

Recently from the net I downloaded NVIDIA Windows 95/98/ME Display Drivers to a file on my D drive. In it was Win9x_21.81 which is an .exe.

I have been to the site that I have mentioned above, and the version there is Win9x-Me_23.11.exe, which is the updated version.

Now, I'm a bit confused. You said you downloaded the drivers and in it was the .exe. Was it just the .exe that you downloaded or was it a zip file?

This is what they say about installing the drivers:

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=IO_20011116_3824

btw, what version driver do you have at the moment?

Go to Control Panel | Display. Settings tab, Advanced. Click on the NVIDIA tab and it will tell you the driver version. The last four digits represent the driver version (ex: 4.13.01.2183 means the driver version is 21.83).

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Hi Eddie
It is an exe file Eddie. It doesn't download in a zip. I think it contains drivers for a number of different Video Cards though. Win9x-Me_23.11.exe to be exact.
Sandra tells me it is a 4.11.01.118 and the and the model ID is nv4disp.drv . Eddie , I also have Gateway update and when I open it I am told what drivers are to be updated. Video is one of them and when I click on the link it loads the drivers and then I have the same problems, can't boot unless I go to safe mode first and some others.
I do want to thank you for hanging in there for me.
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In Display Properties /settings / advanced has it as 4.0 I got the other number from a program called Sandra. No erros when loading just when I reboot. Ok I just went to the CD with the drivers on and the number is 4.11.01.118 don't know why that Sandra program has the wrong number.
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I think I didn't word my last reply properly.

Okay, you said that Sandra ( who I thought was a friend of yours :p), said that the version number was 4.11.01.118

Now, the numbers on the site that they advise you to look for are like this: 4.13.01.2183

Meaning that the driver version number is 21.83

Now, your's says 4.11.01.118

So, would that be incorrect, as we need another number in there. Is it 4.11.01.2118 by any chance?

You say its only on reboot, the error's. What are they? Can you list any messages or what it does?

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Sorry Eddie, does this number look better 4.11.01.0118. This time I copied it and did a paste.
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Now, the numbers on the site that they advise you to look for are like this: 4.13.01.2183

Meaning that the driver version number is 21.83

Now, your's says 4.11.01.118

So, would that be incorrect, as we need another number in there. Is it 4.11.01.2118 by any chance?
 

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Well, I gather they must be old, as this is version 01.18

This may be the reason, but I'll keep looking. Might be going soon, but I 'll continue in the morning.

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Okay

I've had a search around, and as its an old card, finding the drivers is not easy from the main site. However, I have found this:

http://www2.driverguide.com/uploads/uploads6/14487.html

Also, what I did notice, was that at nvidia, under the list of cards supported, the nearest to your NVIDIA RIVA TNT was this: TNT

so, at the other link (above), the card's found for it are:

nVidia Detonator2 v5.22!!! HOT! Released 5/18/2000 for
NVIDIA RIVA TNT
NVIDIA RIVA TNT2
NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Pro
NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Ultra
NVIDIA Vanta
NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64
NVIDIA Aladdin TNT2
NVIDIA GeForce 256
NVIDIA GeForce DDR
NVIDIA Quadro
NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS

But what I do notice with both sites, is that the number 4.12.01.0522 is a different bit at the front (4.12.01). I'm hoping that this won't cause a problem.

Would you care to try it? It may or may not work, but as you've been trying a few anyway, what do you have to lose.

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Well Eddie they didn't work. Now I ended up with another problem. I removed display from System devices and whne I open
Display Properties / Settings / Advanced / Adapter it still has my Nvidia in there it also has current files - that are different then befor. As long as it has TNT in there and change is greyed out I cannot load my origanal drivers again. ANy thoughts??
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