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Lori 1

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I have changed over to Windows 10, I've tried numerous times to download EasyCleaner, but for some odd reason it don't work right so I've uninstall it. It there a certain EasyCleaner for Windows 10?


I haven't been on here for a few years and have a new computer: HP Pavillion Slimline
 
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You have posted in Virus and Other Malware Removal forum
On the details in your topic there is no mention or indeed even supposition that you believe you have an infection
If the query is related only to the use of Easy Cleaner then the best place for the software is where it is now - uninstalled
It is basically a registry cleaner and so called file system cleaner
It will do little to improve Windows 10 problems if you have any, but will stand a very good chance of ruining your computer
There is no place for registry cleaners on most systems but on the windows 10 file system they are more likely to prove the kiss of death.
 

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Referring to this
You have posted in Virus and Other Malware Removal forum
You will notice that your topic has now been moved to the Windows 10 forum
 

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Glary Utilities works on Windows 10.
It might have a few additional features compared to Easy Cleaner.
It has two versions, free and paid.
Just be careful if you use the Registry Cleaning part.. You should always backup the registry before cleaning it with ANY utility
 

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Another completely un-needed and indeed unwanted piece of software
Much of what it purports to do is done automatically by Windows 10
To take one example the disk defrag - such 3rd party operations on windows 10 are unnecessary and dangerous to the health of the file system
The disk check is also done automatically on Windows 10 and not only that but repairs to the file system are in many cases also automatic OR produce a warning that action is necessary.
That all said you must make your own decisions as to what you install and use
 

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Macboatmaster is correct.

From the Requesting & Providing Support section of the Tech Support Guy rules:
Please do not recommend running registry cleaners and/or system optimizers. The staff at Tech Support Guy generally recommend that registry "cleaners" not be used because many of the "errors" shown in scan results are actually incorrect or "false" detections and "fixing" them may cause serious problems. Some resulting issues can appear immediately while others may only become evident months or even years later when you discover that you can't uninstall a program or software you haven't used for a while doesn't work properly. Furthermore, fixing any "real" errors or attempting to optimize the system by tweaking it won't result in any significant gains in space on the hard drive and/or performance so it's best to simply avoid using these types of programs.
 

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The recommendations suggested in this thread are to be taken seriously, and I have no intention of disputing them.
However, I do run CCleaner on a periodic basis. The options are never considered by normal users but should e examined. If that is your wish, Ccleaner can be used to only delete all the temp files on your computer, This should not normally do any harm and releases a little HD space.
 
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Lori:

Blindly using registry "cleaners" or other programs of this type is an almost sure way to wreak havoc with or trash your computer.

The one that you mentioned was popular during the Windows 98SE and ME and early XP days and hasn't been updated in several years, so it's not advisable to use it with Windows 10.

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I mentioned it because the user asked, however I also included the following

Just be careful if you use the Registry Cleaning part.. You should always backup the registry before cleaning it with ANY utility
I have been using these programs for years and when used right, they can actually help systems. Users do not have to use the Registry cleaning section of it, it does a lot of other things that can help a system.
 

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the reg cleaning aspect of CC does exactly nothing; here's a good write up by a former Moderator here.


Elvandil;8007999 said:
Registry cleaners do nothing to help a machine. The damage they cause may not even show up right away. Then you buy a new piece of hardware and discover that it won't install because some "cleaner" removed all the entries. And because of the way the registry works, removing things from it does not improve access speed one iota.



Cleaning "junk" files is another thing that should be done with caution. Many files that programs like Ccleaner remove are very useful at times. For example, most backups, including that of the BCD registry, use the bak file ending. If there is a problem booting, it's easy to replace it unless it has been deleted. Contrary to popular belief, the number of files on the hard drive has nothing at all to do with how well or fast the system runs.


In case someone has not already seen it:


It is true that errors in your registry can cause all sorts of problems. But what cleaners find are not "errors" at all. They define them as "errors" and then either fix them by deleting them, or make repairs that are almost always incorrect. They then see the incorrect entries as correct, and have thus actually introduced 100's of new, real errors into the registry that were not there before.


Any registry error, when it actually exists, needs to be fixed surgically, not with a shotgun.


http://forums.techguy.org/6657814-post1.html

http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/605058-regcure-ruined-my-computer.html

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/785344-hubby-wants-buy-regcure-any.html

http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/708851-registry-cleaner.html

http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/716128-solved-reg-cleaner.html

http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vista/735414-vista-desktop-file-lost.html


Even if registry cleaners actually worked and did what they are supposed to safely, what would be the net gain?



I have over 800,000 entries in my registry. So let's say 1 million as a good approximation. So if we also assume that the "speed" of the registry is an inverse relationship, in other words, if it were half as large, it would be twice as fast, how much would this cleaner actually speed things up?


If it found 5,000 "errors" (they aren't really errors, but let's assume they are since the cleaners do), then the increase in the speed of the registry would be 5000/1000000, or 0.005, or 1/2%. So in other words, by running a registry cleaner and removing 5000 entries (which is more than most find) and risking serious damage to your installation and programs, you have succeeded in increasing the speed by 1/2 of 1% (if it were even true in the first place that registry access speed is dependent on size in this way, which it isn't).


Does that seem worth it to you?


Registry "defraggers" ("compactors") may actually improve your registry access speed, however. These tools do not hack out possibly needed entries like "cleaners" do. They simply rebuild the registry, leaving out blank space and reducing the size. Auslogics may be one of the best since it does the compaction offline on the next machine boot. Some others do, too.


Free registry defragmenters (compressors):


NTREGOPT - http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

RegCompact.NET - http://www.aplusfreeware.com/categories/LFWV/RegCompact.html

WinASO RegDefrag - http://www.winaso.com/

Free Registry Defrag - http://www.registry-clean.net/free-registry-defrag.htm


You can benchmark your registry access speed to compare it at different times, or after a "defrag" ("compaction") to see if any real improvement in access speed occurred. The output of regbench HKLM -auto looks like this:


Benchmarking registry root:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE [HKLM] hKey: 0x80000002

/

== Keys in hive : 359169

== Enumeration time : 135625 ms (135.63 secs)

== Total accesses : 100000

== Total access time : 8609

== Time per access : 0.086090 ms

== Keys per second : 11615.75

== Total bytes read : 10000046

== Time to read all : 10157 ms

== Time per byte : 0.001010 ms per byte

== Bytes per second : 990099.00
 

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That is what is strange, maybe I have been lucky all these yes never to experience this.
 

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It's not that strange, it's more along the lines that ANY reg cleaner isn't going to do squat even on it's best day, and on it's worst, it can do a LOT of bad things.
 

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A friend of mine has a laptop that literally took over 15 minutes to boot up into Windows.
I ran Avast and MalwareBytes. It dropped the boot time to a little under 12 minutes.
I uninstalled unneeded programs and the startup time dropped to under 9 minutes
I defragged the HDD and the start time dropped to under 7 minutes
I ran sfc /scannow no change in start-up time
I then ran glary utilities (this was back in 2011) and the start up time dropped to under 3 minutes. Too me, that showed it does do something.

Not all reg cleaners are the same and some people don't test them before using them. I have tested CCleaner and Glary Utilities on a few test machines (I always test utility before using it). I have used Glary Utilities for years without issues, both personally and professionally.

I am not trying to argue, I am just trying to understand your point of view since my experience been totally opposite. Are jumping to conclusions, I see not proof it was actually caused by the reg cleaner.. What was wrong with the computer in the first place?
 

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what was his OS? If he uses XP, there are a few ways to get faster boot up time. Compressing (not altering, compressing) the registry can help. The problem with any auto reg cleaner is about the same as with a power washer; if you hose down the interior of your car engine with it, you may get the exterior shiny, but there may be issues unseen on the interior.
 

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His OS was Win 7 and he has been using the laptop the last time I talked to him (about 2 months). I also did teach him about not installing toolbars or software using the "typical" or "recommended" option, to always use the custom.
 
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