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Error trying to open W98 sharing PC

Discussion in 'Networking' started by jldjs, Jan 25, 2007.

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  1. jldjs

    jldjs Thread Starter

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    Have XP Home and W98SE pcs. Setup these two in a workgroup using Client for MS Networks, enabled Netbios over TCP, named both PCs in the workgroup and set share attributes for files on both. I want to access and transfer files from the W98 to the XP. From XP I can't see the W98 in Network Neighborhood but I can search and find it. But I get an error "\\PCname not accessible, might not have permission to use...etc".
    I setup the W98 to use Client for MS Networks as the logon server and when the pc boots up it displays a logon box with Default as name and blank password. Not knowing how to respond I just selected cancel and the startup proceeded. Is this the problem? Need some help fixing this and I don't fully understand the setups just followed directions from a tutorial for setting up file sharing network using Windows.
     
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    If you have failure on ping by IP address you have a firewall blocking access. If that ping works, I don't know 98SE enough to help, but probably somebody else can.

    To open a Command Window: Start - Run – cmd (command in 98SE) - OK

    To determine a computer's IP address: open a Command Window and type
    ipconfig /all

    Now for some troubleshooting:

    1. On each PC open a Command window and type
    ping IPofOther (where IPofOther is the IP address of the other PC)

    Do you get Replies, or do you get packets lost?

    If you got Replies,

    2. Do the same ping except use the Computer Name of the other computer:
    ping NameOfOtherPC

    Replies or lost packets?
     
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    aah yes, connecting 98 with XP.

    for some reason the 98 doesn't like to assign IPs nicely when connected with XP you will have to assign an ip yourself
     
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    jldjs "can search and find it" so IP addresses must have been satisfactorily assigned, right?
     
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    Thanks for replies.
    I can ping the W98 pc from XP using IP or name. Haven't tried W98 to XP yet.
    The IP addresses for both PC are assigned by my router so I don't understand the second reply concerning 98 not liking to assign IPs with XP.
    I believe my problem has something to do with XP or 98 not thinking the other PC user is signed on. I pretty sure the firewall is ok since I could ping but I don't understand how the two OPs allow the access to the file shares. Please reply with your thoughts on this.
     
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    I typically use the Network Setup Wizard to enable file and printer sharing on XP computers. And the wizard way is the only way I know for 98SE, although it sounds like you did at least most of what's needed. I'll post the following just in case there's anything in it of use to you. Another way to run the wizard on a 98SE machine is with the Windows XP CD; the wizard lives in 'Other Tasks.'

    Run the Network Setup wizard (found in Control Panel of XP). Tell it each of your computers connects to the internet via "residential gateway" and that you want to enable file and printer sharing. Create a disk at the end only if you have a Windows PC other than XP or 2k Pro.

    Windows XP firewall (if SP2) will be properly configured by the wizard. You must uninstall or properly configure any 3rd party firewalls on each machine. Unique computer names and same workgroup, of course.

    The Shared Documents folder is automatically shared. Any other folders (or drives) or printers you want to share, just right click on them and sharing ... . When sharing a printer, accept the offer to load other drivers if your other PCs have different Operating System(s).

    When you first go into My Network Places there will be nothing there. The first time you click on 'View Workgroup computers' will probably result in great disappointment. It takes awhile (20 minutes or so) before all the computers in the workgroup get up-to-date and accurate lists of the other computers. Often you can speed up this process via Search for other computers.

    When computers show up in My Network Places, double click on one to see its shares. If that includes a printer, you can right click on the printer to connect to it.
     
  7. Bob Cerelli

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    Since the problem is accessing the Win98 computer, I would recommend logging on rather than canceling.

    You also need to have file sharing enabled on the the Win98 computer had have something shared.

    Don't need any disks to do it but you do need access to the Win98 source files. The details are on:
    http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking/sharing.htm
     
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    what are the two IPs?

    I usually get somtrhing like 192.168.x.x on XP
    and 169.217.x.x ON Win98
     
  9. Bob Cerelli

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    Actually you would need the same IP scheme. You should not be usually getting something like 169.217.x.x ON Win98 as a rule.

    Fortunately they can ping the Win98 computer by both IP and Name as well as see it when they browse the network.
     
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    He said he cant see the other PC, but he said he could ping, I think that he has a bad scheme for IP, so i suggested that he assign them manually. ex: 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 and so on.
     
  11. Bob Cerelli

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    If there were a bad IP scheme, then he would not have been able to ping by IP or by Name. Also would not be getting the error "\PCname not accessible, might not have permission to use".

    Try it. Misconfigure the IP on one computer to have 169.x.x.x where the other has 192.168.x.x with a typical subnet mask. Then try and ping.
     
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