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What a truly interesting thread topic...

Music and Art:

Music:

I think people will being to "find" themselves. There will be return to the basics, which will include bluegrass, gospel, and Folk music.

People will again attempt to identify themselves by music. There will be a rediscovery of The Beatles (Anthologies; "natural" music) and Eric Clapton, and all music which connects the present with the future, and the past.

Art...

A much harder one for me, as I am not artistically inclined.

Take the human body: What will Art represent in 50 years?

My opinion will be: there will be a Renaissance of Art representing the natural beauty represented by Mona Lisa and other classics.
 
As an aside, fifty years ago....:cool:

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50 years of US spaceflight
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In addition to what Brad says, I think the media and medium are gonna change especially because of the internet....In our area there are concerts geared to individual homes, mostly local groups, for people who don't want to go out and engage with a few thousand others....:eek: And recently I've started to jam with a couple of friends who live over a thousand miles away through Skype and other such programs, and I predict it will get better and smoother....:up:
 
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I hope one fad that dies out are tattoos. I am getting very sick of them. I expect to see increased personal isolationism as people spend more of their time social networking and less time with real people.
 
As an aside, fifty years ago....:cool:

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50 years of US spaceflight
:cool:

In addition to what Brad says, I think the media and medium are gonna change especially because of the internet....In our area there are concerts geared to individual homes, mostly local groups, for people who don't want to go out and engage with a few thousand others....:eek: And recently I've started to jam with a couple of friends who live over a thousand miles away through Skype and other such programs, and I predict it will get better and smoother....:up:
just to continue with the spaceflight issue; I wrote about the X-15 recently (blog entry here for those bored enough to read it) and how I feel Sputnik actually set the American space program back a few decades. Somewhat pertinent to the subject at hand, I guess, but not very.

My biggest fear of the next 50 years is, ironically enough, our dependence upon the little PCB's.......printed circuit boards. A good solar shot or an enemy EMP in LEO and this society is done. There have been studies done that state that the solar pulse that hit in 1859 or so, were it to hit today, would cripple the North American electrical grid for upwards of a decade.

That, and I think we are vastly underestimating global warming.......I would state that those are the two areas that we, as a species are most at risk at.......

As for art.......my friend Brad, it never changes......:) Art is and will always remain art, and it is always in the eye of the beholder. I favor Seurat; the missus like Renoir and Matisse......If something like the statue of David can sustain the tests of time, I reckon what our current artists are putting out will be equally revered......

if society is still around, of course. :)
 
I have never understood the 'tatoo' thing....Why mess up your only skin? :confused: The Social Networking is not a bad thing, IMO....I've been in touch with friends and relatives that I lost twenty years ago....:up: However I do understand the addictive nature...
 
As an aside, fifty years ago....:cool:

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50 years of US spaceflight
:cool:

In addition to what Brad says, I think the media and medium are gonna change especially because of the internet....In our area there are concerts geared to individual homes, mostly local groups, for people who don't want to go out and engage with a few thousand others....:eek: And recently I've started to jam with a couple of friends who live over a thousand miles away through Skype and other such programs, and I predict it will get better and smoother....:up:
Okay... that's truly thought provoking....

But I have to ask... part of that is the artist who puts the Art above the dollar. Yes?

It would be nice to see the Artists put the Art first, but... some have a family to provide for...
 
I have always put the Art first....As a matter of fact, I've made exactly $26.00 playing music over the last forty-five years...:cool: But also as a matter of fact, I haven't depended on it to survive....;) Even a 'wanna be socialist' has to put food on the table....;)
 
just to continue with the spaceflight issue; I wrote about the X-15 recently (blog entry here for those bored enough to read it) and how I feel Sputnik actually set the American space program back a few decades. Somewhat pertinent to the subject at hand, I guess, but not very.

My biggest fear of the next 50 years is, ironically enough, our dependence upon the little PCB's.......printed circuit boards. A good solar shot or an enemy EMP in LEO and this society is done. There have been studies done that state that the solar pulse that hit in 1859 or so, were it to hit today, would cripple the North American electrical grid for upwards of a decade.

That, and I think we are vastly underestimating global warming.......I would state that those are the two areas that we, as a species are most at risk at.......

As for art.......my friend Brad, it never changes......:) Art is and will always remain art, and it is always in the eye of the beholder. I favor Seurat; the missus like Renoir and Matisse......If something like the statue of David can sustain the tests of time, I reckon what our current artists are putting out will be equally revered......

if society is still around, of course. :)
First, I read your blog. Pretty nice job. :up: I didn't know you had one.

I wished I knew you were such a fanatic. I would have taken more pictures of the Smithsonian Air and Space. (Personal suggestion... wait until the boy is older, where he can soak it all up)

Ok, back to topic.... I tend to remain overly optimistic about air and space. I remain so optimistic about pushing further; about seeing more. In 50 years, if we could reach.... say... Pluto, what ancillary advancements will be dragged along?

As for Art, the perception of Art does change. View the statue of David with Renoir and other Impressionist artists. What will artists perceive as "Art" in fifty years?
 
I have always put the Art first....As a matter of fact, I've made exactly $26.00 playing music over the last forty-five years...:cool: But also as a matter of fact, I haven't depended on it to survive....;) Even a 'wanna be socialist' has to put food on the table....;)
Well... true that. So, in fifty years, will society compensate the artist to make Art; or will they need to make economic decisions that they are having to make today?
 
First off, about the Art thing....They're still playing the Classics from the last thousand years or so, and thus it's through the current Artist that we see or feel the effect...:up: As far as Economic Decisions, did you ever see the movie 'Alien'?
 
First off, about the Art thing....They're still playing the Classics from the last thousand years or so, and thus it's through the current Artist that we see or feel the effect...:up: As far as Economic Decisions, did you ever see the movie 'Alien'?
Yea, I did. But it's been awhile. Do I need to see again?
 
First, I read your blog. Pretty nice job. :up: I didn't know you had one.
had it for quite some time.......been a free-lance writer for about 20 years, which indirectly led into my career in IT. (writing pays garbage). :)

All of my climate change columns have been published elsewhere, and a few others have as well.......the SETI one I have emailed to SETI about 5 times, but have yet to hear back from them.

I wished I knew you were such a fanatic. I would have taken more pictures of the Smithsonian Air and Space. (Personal suggestion... wait until the boy is older, where he can soak it all up)
Been there a few hundred million times or so. :) Remember, my pop worked for Lockheed-Martin, so I got to meet a lot of cool people and see all SORTS of cool things......got a pick somewhere with me in the MMU, and in a Gemini capsule mockup.

Ok, back to topic.... I tend to remain overly optimistic about air and space. I remain so optimistic about pushing further; about seeing more. In 50 years, if we could reach.... say... Pluto, what ancillary advancements will be dragged along?
We will reach Pluto shortly......the New Horizons satellite was launched a few years back, should be there in about 3 more years. IMO, all that we will bring back from this is what Pluto/Charon is a deeper understanding of what makes their composition, and finally put to rest the planet/planetoid argument.

As for Art, the perception of Art does change. View the statue of David with Renoir and other Impressionist artists. What will artists perceive as "Art" in fifty years?
the perception may change, but the 'art' never does......again, it's very similar to a faith based system. Andy Warhol painted Campbell soup cans and made zillions doing so. Some other dude put up a large curtainish thing in California....both rather odd, but both art to some people........that's all I was saying. :)
 
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A few things we will not see fifty years from now:

  • A visitation by extraterrestrials.
  • The end of days.
  • The end of economically driven war.
  • The end of internal combustion engines and fossil fuels.
  • The end of partisan, gutter politics, domestically and internationally.
  • The end of shoddy, underfunded healthcare and education.
  • The end of the colonization of the West by third world and "developing" nations.

I'm not sure about the internet. I am not visionary enough to predict what more it can do.
 
A few things we will not see fifty years from now:

  • A visitation by extraterrestrials.
  • The end of days.
  • The end of economically driven war.
  • The end of internal combustion engines and fossil fuels.
  • The end of partisan, gutter politics, domestically and internationally.
  • The end of shoddy, underfunded healthcare and education.
  • The end of the colonization of the West by third world and "developing" nations.

I'm not sure about the internet. I am not visionary enough to predict what more it can do.
really going out on a limb there, Jimbo.........;)

BTW, ever hear of longbets.org? Got some rather sobering stuff up there by people WAAY smarter than me or you......or at least more recognized, I should say.
 
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really going out on a limb there, Jimbo.........;)

BTW, ever hear of longbets.org? Got some rather sobering stuff up there by people WAAY smarter than me or you......or at least more recognized, I should say.
Dude, this thread is all about limbs. Trying to predict the future without crystal balls, horoscopes or any other form of mysticism. Just reading the past and present and trying to extrapolate into the future without H. G. Wells' temporal buggy.

No, I have not had an opportunity to check out that site, though I have heard of it. Besides from here and my malware training I am spending next to no time online, as I have family and work matters to occupy my time.
 
You need to check that site out......seriously.........

Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, bets the following:
"By 2020, bioterror or bioerror will lead to one million casualties in a single event."
Given his intellect and position, that is the one that bothers me the most, and truth told, it is NOT a bet I would take....
 
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You need to check that site out......seriously.........

Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, bets the following:

Given his intellect and position, that is the one that bothers me the most, and truth told, it is NOT a bet I would take....
Fair enough, but I don't want to get caught up in predictions. I'm more interested with probabilities. For example, what is the probability within fifty years of a cyber attack that could seriously disrupt a nation, or nations, to the point of causing human and economic harm on a large scale?
 
too many variables to quantify that, Jimbo......which, interestingly enough, is one of the reasons that longbet came into being.....try to winnow out the probabilities of x happening in y amount of time.
 
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too many variables to quantify that, Jimbo......which, interestingly enough, is one of the reasons that longbet came into being.....try to winnow out the probabilities of x happening in y amount of time.
Predictions are then even harder to quantify; but I wasn't speaking of developing mathematical algorithms. We can approximate a future event's probability by looking at current trends then saying that "X event is [not very likely][somewhat likely][very likely]".
 
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