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Discussion in 'Networking' started by jakamk, Sep 13, 2004.

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  1. jakamk

    jakamk Thread Starter

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    I have 2 home pcs connected through a hub. Both pcs have winxp. My primary computer that connects to the internet can access files on the secondary computer but my secondary computer cannot access the primary computer, when I go to my network places and try to connect it says that I do not have access to this network resource, BUT I can access the internet on the secondary computer. Thanks for any help.
     
  2. JohnWill

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    If the primary machine is 2K or XP, create an account on the primary machine with the same name/password that is used to logon to the secondary machine. This will allow the primary machine to authenticate the user and you'll be all set.
     
  3. jakamk

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    I tried that and it didnt work. I have xp home on each machine everything is fine except the secondary computer cant access files on primary. I turned off zone alarm norton and xp firewall.
     
  4. JohnWill

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    All machines are must be in the same subnet, i.e. 192.168.0.x where x is any number. The subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0 for most small networks.

    Turn off any firewalls for debugging. If the firewall is the problem, you'll have to configure it to allow access to "trusted zone" addresses.

    PING each computer by IP address, and if successful, PING by name. You can obtain the IP address of a computer by opening a command prompt (DOS window) and typing IPCONFIG. This should work for any Windows version.

    All computers should be in the same workgroup for computer browsing to function properly. File & Print Sharing has to be enabled on any computer you wish to share files or printers from. You also need to actually share the resource in question from My Computer, right click on the drive/printer/folder, and select sharing.

    If you encounter difficulties accessing computers that are visible in Network Neighborhood, make sure the computer being accessed has an account with the same name/password as the system connecting to it uses to login.

    While the default NetBIOS setting is correct for normal network configurations, it's possible for it to be altered, and it costs nothing to make sure it's correct. NETBIOS over TCP/IP must be enabled for normal network browsing.
     
  5. Bob Cerelli

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    Likely if all computers can access the Internet and you can browse each computer, you already have the same IP scheme and can ping by both IP and name otherwise you wouldn't be getting that far.

    The default setting with XP Pro is to require a password for network access. Didn't see where it was mentioned one way or another. So you can't have the same blank password on both computers.

    Try making a new directory and sharing that out.

    I have also seen where either the Winsock2 was damaged:
    http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm#winsock2

    Or a System File Check needed to be run:
    http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm#sfc_no_cd
     
  6. jakamk

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    I have run the Network test utility and every thing passed. I feel like I am missing something that is allowing access to my primary computer. I can access the files I want on my secondary computer but cant access my primarycomp from secondary comp. But I can print and access the internet on my secondary computer through my primary computer. Thanks for any help.
     
  7. jakamk

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    I also forgot to mention I set up identical accounts with username and password the same on both machines, and also made sure the guest account is active.
     
  8. jakamk

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    Also I checked the netbios over Tcp/ip was enabled and it was, I turned off windows firewall, norton, and zonealarm, the only other thing I have installed is Lavasoft adware but I dont think its active.
     
  9. Bob Cerelli

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    Did you run the Winsock and SFC on all computers. I've found it more to be a problem on the client one rather that the one you are trying to access.

    Also, can you completely uninstall any 3rd party firewall software. It has happened quite a lot in the past where even though it was though to be disabled, only by uninstalling it did things start working again.
     
  10. jakamk

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    How do I run winsock and sfc. I will try that and then I will uninstall zonealarm.
     
  11. MABE

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    Hi,

    I have experienced some troubles about the network settings, I have not found any solution yet.

    I have a PC with Windows ME connected to a Linksys WRT54G, I have one printer installed on the ME.
    My (wireless) laptop runs XP

    I have change the node type in the XP to hybrid, also I have enabled NETBIOS over TCP/IP. Also XP firewall disable.

    In the ME the node type is Broadcast (I haven't found the way to change it).

    When created the network on XP, created the disk and run it on the ME, same Workgroup. -Printers and folders specified as Shared. I also specifiacally in share the printer under Printer Properties -So the "hand" is under the printer"

    From the XP I can see the ME in My network places, I see the Group and the ME, however I cannot access anything else, I cannot see the printer when addig it. I cannot ping the ME machine!

    From the ME I cannot even see the group, so I cannot even see what is in the group however I can ping the XP machine!!

    Thanks for any help!!
    MABE
     
  12. Bob Cerelli

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    jakamk,

    Since there are numerous posts from people that thought the firewall software was turned off when it really wasn't, can you temporarily completely uninstall any firewall software. Also turn off XP's built in firesall.

    The instructions for both the Winsock fix and running SFC were in the previous post where I made the suggestion. You might want to take a look at them.

    MABE,

    Is this a new post added on to the original one?
     
  13. MABE

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    Bob,

    Thanks, I will give it a try.

    In the XP and ME I only have norton antivirus, and the XP's built in firewall is disable. I have not install any other firewall and I am not aware I have any extra protection with norton besides the basic options.

    I will then uninstall norton on both and install it again. Anyways how can I tell if norton has a firewall incorporate option of how it is interfering when I am pinging the computers?

    MABE
     
  14. Bob Cerelli

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    MABE,

    You might consider starting your own thread on this. Trying to solve two people's different problems in the same one gets confusing and hard to do.
     
  15. Bob Cerelli

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    MABE,

    Why are you making all those unnecessary changes to the default networking configuration. Just adds complexity and will likley not work anyway.

    The basics for troubleshooting are:

    1. Make sure you have the same IP scheme (e.g. 192.168.0.x).

    2. Make sure you have the same Subnet Mask, Gateway, and DNS IP addresses.

    3. Make sure you can ping the other computer's IP address. If this fails, just for testing, make sure you turn off XP's as well as any other firewall.

    4. Make sure you can ping the other computers by name.

    5. Make sure you have the same workgroup name (watch for trailing spaces)

    6. For troubleshooting purposes, turn off XP's and any other firewall software. You can always add more complexity after you get it working.

    7. With XP, make sure you have the same username and password as the person logging onto the other computers. The default setting for XP Pro is to require a password for network access.

    8. More details about how to network XP can be found at:
    http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking/xp_network.htm

    9. More details about how to troubleshoot TCP/IP networks can be found at:
    http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking/trouble.htm

    10. Apply the registry edit to fix the browsing delay from XP to Win9x computers
    http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm#browsing_delay.

    There continues to be a lot of misinformation about needing NetBEUI or to changing the NetBIOS setting. You can ignore both. Installing NetBEUI to solve a networking problem will just mask a some underlying and potentially important misconfiguration with TCP/IP. The default NetBIOS setting works fine so there is no need to change that either.
     
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